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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by josephsh5@lemm.ee to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca

This is affecting many PC gamers around the world, such as myself, as the last 3 PlayStation releases on Steam have been blocked in many countries. I wanna know what's your take on this. Please be respectful, and thank you. 😊

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

I don’t care about it, they can sell to whom they want

[-] dingus182@endlesstalk.org 2 points 1 month ago

And here, I'm contemplating the PSVR2 as rumors of a PC adapter.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 1 month ago

I don't particularly care...

It sucks for people that live in countries that Sony doesn't sell to ... but also Sony just doesn't sell to those countries.

Ultimately they made people use an account, something that's long been extremely standard behavior.

I think people are overreacting, particularly those that are in a situation where it's just "create a free account with your throw away email address."

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 month ago

From their perspective it just makes business sense. They're already developing these games for their proprietary platform, putting them on PCs for other platforms is just extra money, forcing them into the PSN network make sense. They don't care if they're leaving money on the table, it's just extra money that they weren't making before.

[-] josephsh5@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

You missed the main issue my friend, it's not about having a launcher or an account, it's the way their doing it.

[-] cheddar@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

I don't like this requirement, but I can understand that this is their product and they can do that. The real problem is that I can't even buy these games as Sony isn't selling them in my country. What is more hilarious is that I can get Ghosts of Tsushima or God of War for PS5 on a physical disk, but I can't buy them on Steam. Sony even has official stores where they sell PS5 in some of these countries, including mine. That looks incredibly strange. I wonder what Sony is trying to achieve. Apparently, they think that the end justifies the means. I guess we'll find out soon enough. I'd bet on an independent PC store.

[-] Defaced@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

I think it's a stupid hill to die on. You have EA, Ubisoft, Epic, gog, steam, and even 2k and GTA accounts but this is where you draw the line? Come on, that's just stupid. I would also point out that those also have games that not only require the associated account but also the associated launcher and for single player games.

I get that there are people that can't purchase the games due to region restrictions on psn accounts, but this is quite possibly the most hypocritical and idiotic circle jerk I've ever seen in PC gaming.

[-] Mathazzar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I think the difference is that helldivers 2 never required me to log into anything except my steam account to play until only recently.

Just be cause the game says it may require it, but it's not enforces from day 1, doesn't change that feeling of having the rug pulled.

People don't have a problem with needing an account, they have a problem with suddenly needing to have an account if they purchased and played it without one.

[-] Defaced@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Helldivers is a completely different scenario. I'm talking about God of war and ghosts of tsushima and any other game that gets ported over with the requirement from day 1. Helldivers was a screw up, the other games aren't, and frankly it's absolutely ridiculous anyone is complaining about it when you have to make accounts for damn near every fucking publisher. How is this different other than the region issues? I'll give you a hint, it's not. Pretty sure at this point anyone downvoting me right now is just pissed I'm calling their stupidity out.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 1 month ago

you might make accounts for every publisher, but not all of us do.

[-] Defaced@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

What do you mean? You have to for Ubisoft, ea, and Activision, I'd love to know how you're bypassing this but honestly it's just not worth my time.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 1 month ago

Pretty simple. I don't play games from those companies

[-] Defaced@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

So you're complaining over nothing because you don't play games that require accounts.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 1 month ago

I'm not complaining. You made the assertion All gamers are already making accounts outside of steam, I provided you a counter example saying gamers don't necessarily have to make those accounts.

So for the population of gamers who don't make a bajillion accounts with all of the proprietary networks, and just have steam accounts, they can remain steadfast and not make PlayStation Network accounts. There's nothing particularly compelling about any single game. You can decide how you spend your time and money, and what behavior you want to incentivize. The choice is yours. But you are not powerless

[-] accideath@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Rockstar, EA, Ubisoft, Epic, Blizzard and probably some more all make you use their launcher/account as well. Sony doing it is no different. Doesn’t make it the nice thing to do but it’s the sad reality of PC gaming. The price of flexibility is having to deal with tons of accounts (or piracy).

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, that's the price of consuming content from exploitive corporations that leverage capital against you to better exploit you. Stop being a class traitor.

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Well, unless you exclusively play games made by small indie studios and that are distributed directly, that’s still the price you need to pay if you want to consume said content while playing on a PC. Or you pirate and thus don’t support the people who created it. I don’t like that situation either and there are some developers I definitely won’t support with my money. However, that decision isn’t based on the need for some account, when it’s trivial to make one. That’s annoying but the dealbreakers should be scammy, unfinished games, predatory, gambling-like micro transactions, bad company culture, etc, not the need to have a burner email account.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, unless you exclusively give your money to people who aren't exploitative and abusive, you get fucking exploited and abused, and contribute to others getting exploited and abused. It's 1 + 1 = 2. You're making it way more complicated than it needs to be. But yes, it's something you have to be mindful of ALL the time.

We know that Sony has done or does almost all of those things, or worse. You're defending your abuser. This is a common pattern that many many people demonstrate. Break out. If you think the abuse is going to stop with "needing to have a burner account," you're fucking lying to yourself and you probably know it.

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You seem like a very angry person.

Having to make a PSN account isn’t exploiting you anymore than you’re already being exploited by having a Steam account, which you do have when you bought the game on PC. You don’t even have to give Sony any real information. Faking one’s birthday and using a burner email isn’t that hard to do. It’s annoying, it’s a dick move by Sony and yes, you should complain about it, but it’s not the culmination of all capitalist evil.

[-] AbsorbsQuickly@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago

More sick of outrage bait title gore where everything is either a slam or a "forced down throat" personally. But it is annoying.

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