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[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Well, regardless of what you think of their politics, that's a huge loss for a country with the position Iran is in right now. I hope they manage to keep calm and prevent foreign shit starting.

[–] commiewolf@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's mind boggling to me that lemmygrad is the only place I've yet seen anyone show some sort of respect for a world leader dying in a violent accident. Everywhere in the media and online all I'm seeing is people glad he's dead. As if he's ever done anything to any of us to deserve that.

[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 months ago

There's a pretty long list of other world leaders who if they went out violently like this, I'd be all ripbozo smoking on the prez pack. Unfortunately, Raeisi is not one of them.

[–] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't he pretty involved in the suppression of women? All I've read is that he generally wasn't well liked by any group of the citizenry of Iran

I can understand people feeling concern for Iran's people and trajectory during a tumultuous time like this, but I don't think anyone should feel bad he's gone. He wasn't a good person

[–] pressurized@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago

That an interesting way of looking at it. If you can find any purity argument for why a politician wasn't progressive (he wasn't btw) then it's a good thing for them to just go up in a fireball. Politics by process of elimination! Say, Yemenis invited Jackson Hinkle to a Zoom conference. Maybe they should go die, too, because they're more backward than you and the removeds got to them first! Hell, my favorite Burkina Faso reporting account randomly veers into Christian grimposting about gay people (me).

Just ignore all context for why people are nervous about this in the first place (Iran is playing a critical role in breaking the illusion of US hegemony and this could even be a pointless assassination)! Woo hoo! Billionaire down!

It's not like this is going to make the political situation better in Iran if you view it that way. Now he will be memorialized for dying in the midst of a great struggle.

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This hurts. I really wish the best for the iranian people. Even through this tough times, I hope they can come stronger from this.

[–] AYJANIBRAHIMOV@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

ارقد بسلام . 🌹

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 6 months ago

الله يرحمهم

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

R.I.P.

Is the cause known yet? Because if someone form foreign country caused this, there could be unseen consequences.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Helicopter crashed into a mountain in basically zero visibility fog. Chuck Shumer said that the is suspected no foul play. Sounds to be just an accident. If I remember, this is what brought down Kobes helicopter too

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, yes it's the same thing as Kobe. So nothing then for now.

But what about other 2 helicopters which were flying alongside, how did they not crash?

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But what about other 2 helicopters which were flying alongside, how did they not crash?

Probably had more experience with flying by instruments only, or they were just being more cautious.

With rotary aircraft, instrument experience varies a lot more from pilot to pilot than fixed wing, that and fixed wing aircraft have a lot more altitude to cushion any mistakes of an inexperienced pilot.

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah makes sense, but weird that they put the president in less experienced one.

[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

State media hasn't implied anything. I'm sure they'll investigate. But helicopters crashing in terrible weather conditions isn't unusual. I'd put my money on accident unless some compelling evidence is forthcoming.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Interesting string of coincidences with a plot on Vucic, attempt on Fico, and now this.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I didn't want to put on my tinfoil hat and go all conspiracy theory on this but I was thinking the same

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 months ago

lol right, like it's just such a wild coincidence

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Vučić could go honestly ASAP... They also faked ''assassination'' attempts on him multiple times in media over the years to the point where it became a meme, examples include: alleged plan to snipe him where they put a cut photo of him visiting weapon exhibition, other one to allegedly blow him up with a rocket launcher, grenade launcher, mine etc etc.

You know scratch-that, just oof the entire Balkan political scene, this is 9th circle of hell.

[–] commiewolf@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 6 months ago

Must have been a Terrible way to go. Rest in peace.

[–] Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago

not good. how do we feel about fellow 'communists' or 'leftists' celebrating this?