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[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago
[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 5 months ago

Drivers can activate Mercedes’s technology, called Drive Pilot, when certain conditions are met, including in heavy traffic jams, during the daytime, on specific California and Nevada freeways, and when the car is traveling less than 40 mph. Drivers can focus on other activities until the vehicle alerts them to resume control. The technology does not work on roads that haven’t been pre-approved by Mercedes, including on freeways in other states.

This system operates completely differently than Tesla and will be accordingly limited. Tesla is designing their system to be able to drive anywhere, not just select roads in limited conditions.

Waymo is probably the most likely to reach widescale level 5 autonomy first, assuming Google doesn't kill it.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Tesla can barely manage a working L2 system.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 months ago

Yeah, what Tesla says, and what it has are very different.

I suspect Mercedes is being a bit conservative in there implementation, but ultimately realistic by limiting speeds and locations of the service to start.

They also may be limited by laws and insurance available in those locals.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, what Tesla says, and what it has are very different.

I'm personally not concerned with what they say. I have FSD.

Is it "full self driving"? Absolutely not. Is it close? Also no.

Is it worth $15k. Again, no.

Is it really, sometimes freakishly good? Yes.

Would I rather have a system that operates at all speeds and conditions with driver supervision than one that only works on certain roads in certain states at certain speeds without supervision? Absolutely.

[-] Radium@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

I’d rather be a pedestrian on the same road as the Mercedes than be a pedestrian within a mile of the Tesla

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -2 points 5 months ago
[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 5 months ago

Nor can Merc. Or anyone else outside of OpenPilot.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This system operates completely differently than Tesla and will be accordingly limited. Tesla is designing their system to be able to drive anywhere, not just select roads in limited conditions.

You’re getting this wrong. Tesla is simply lying to customers and risks their life to sell them an unproven system which at this point is known to have killed people. I bet Mercedes implementation is way better (probably because radar and lidar) but they still do not gamble your life on barely maturing technology just to sell more cars. By limiting the system they know what the risks are and are relatively certain about its performance. In other words they’ve done the testing, so you with your passengers don’t have to.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You’re getting this wrong.

No? I'm not.

to sell them an unproven system which at this point is known to have killed people.

It can't possibly kill anyone, because the driver is still supposed to be in control at all times.

It's been proven on millions of cars around the world...

I bet Mercedes implementation is way better...but they still do not gamble your life on barely maturing technology just to sell more cars.

LOL "you bet"? Based on what?What makes you think their implementation is perfect?

E: lots of downvotes, zero explanations.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

While I always dreamed of something like this as a youngin, we need rails.

[-] amzd@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago

Ye train passengers have literally never been required to watch the road

[-] Twinkletoes@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

They aren’t required to signal either

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