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submitted 7 months ago by yogi_pogi@lemmy.world to c/cooking@lemmy.world

Third attempt in a year.

It's the right texture, but I'm still missing something. It's not as good as store bought, but good enough. And I'm working on improving that zest.

Kimchi sans fish sauce. Via https://www.liveeatlearn.com/how-to-make-kimchi/

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

For fermentation in general, let me give you a few tips that may be tripping you up:

  1. Don't wash ANYTHING in chlorinated water before going in the jar.

  2. The salt type and granule size is very important.

  3. Always calculate salt by total weight of the jar + contents

  4. NEVER add chlorinated water to the vessel. NEVER EVER EVER

Some tips for Kimchi specifically:

  1. Smash the garlic and let it sit for a few minutes before chopping or adding

  2. Get the finest granule of pepper "flakes". Not the large flake kind meant for soups or stews. You want powder, practically. Deep red, and about the grain of table salt at max.

  3. Mix your salt, sugar, pepper flakes, garlic and onion FIRST before adding them to your cabbage. A little bit of soy sauce or spring water for moisture. Let the mixture sit a good 30m to bloom before rubbing into the cabbage.

  4. RUB THAT MIX ALLLLLL OVER EVERRRRRYTHING. When I say everything, that means every little nook and cranny of the cabbage. Squeeze the cabbage a bit while doing so to help release some moisture into the marinade.

  5. Get a muddler to help smash and bruise the cabbage as it's going into your jar. You really want it packed tight, and smashing it as you go releases even more moisture into the mix, so by the time you've filled the jar, you should have enough volume to mostly cover the top

  6. Get some weights for the top to make sure the last bits added are submerged.

Good luck.

[-] LesMotsBalaises@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Soooo bottled water instead of tap to make a brine? Assuming the former has no chlorine while the latter does

[-] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I assume by chlorinated water you mean most tap water?

[-] yogi_pogi@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

#3 is accurate! I absolutely eyeballed my salt and hot sauce and did not do things correctly.

Then Surprised Pikachu face when it got moldy.

[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I've always wanted to try making kimchee but it seems like such an ordeal lol I love the titles you gave each jar!

[-] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It's really not too bad. You just need to get all the ingredients together and follow the steps. Cucumber kimchi is my favorite and pretty easy to make.

[-] yogi_pogi@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I absolutely took a in-person workshop and then watched a dozen YouTube videos.

My first batch was awful. Like putrid and rancid.

My second one was edible!

[-] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

Stay Calm and Kimchi-On! :)

[-] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Notorious KIM is hardbody 💪

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I've made kimchi before, but under the supervision of my mom. So I'm not exactly an expert.

To me it looks like your kimchi is too watery. After looking at the recipe I think I may know why. This is a vegan recipe, traditional kimchi not only has fish sauce, but it also has quite a bit of fermented shrimp brine.

It doesn't look like the recipe you linked has enough salt in the actual spice mix, traditional kimchi gets this from the shrimp. If you don't have enough salt, the marinade won't fully saturate the cabbage.

If you are trying to do a traditional vegan recipe I would suggest just doing This but substituting salt for the shrimp, and something like tamari or something with umami for the fish sauce.

I actually don't know if I would use that recipe, it seems low on both sugar and salt for preservation.

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