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Imagine the mental gymnastics you have to go through to argue that not voting for a genocidal maniac is privilege. Basically what this person saying is that if you are Palestinian you should vote for and support the person who is actively enabling the genocide of your people because they are afraid of what Trump might do because they themselves might be affected by it. How is that not privilege?

The most effective way of achieving any meaningful change is protesting and holding politicians accountable no matter who is in power. But they're arguing for not doing that. To blindly accept and not protest or even criticize a person enabling genocide. Who cares what you vote for? A single vote doesn't mean shit but standing up and fighting against fascism and genocide is what matters. Not only are many of these liberals privileged they are fucking cowards too.

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[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I will say this once again since many people do not understand the argument I have been trying to make:

The American electoral system is NOT democratic. You are not voting because you agree with someone’s political platform. You are voting to NOT get punished by the system. It is a hostage situation. You don’t have a choice.

The system is designed to punish those who think they can subvert the electoral system by choosing not to vote. If you don’t vote for Biden, then it’s going to give you something worse, and you will have to endure the suffering until you learn to toe the line.

Meanwhile, smug liberals who will not be materially affected by Trump’s policies will be on your face saying “See, this is what you get by not voting for Biden. Enjoy suffering under Trump!”

It’s incredible that most people here still don’t realize that they are the hostages in this situation. It really demonstrates how powerful the American propaganda is, even for leftists who think they are too aware to fall for propaganda.

[–] PoisonIvy@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I have been following this (and that) thread and I think most here (and there) have given you more time of day to refute this than you should have been given. There is not a "something worse" for many, many people living in the United States (and especially abroad, for that matter!) already, and I want to know if you'd tell them the same thing you are telling your presumed audience with this. Just be happy you don't live there for it and come off it already.

[–] assyrian@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

you're right, but the counterpoint to this is it doesn't matter. unless you live in like 1 of 5 states, your vote doesn't matter - most Americans' vote do not matter. and even in swing states, the margins are never as close as one vote. so you don't have to vote for Genocide Joe unless you really support him.

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