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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 164 points 7 months ago

What an amazing cutting edge breakthrough. Truly frontier technology. The mind boggles.

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago

I thought we’d seen it all when they finally let people change the default notification sound in iOS 17!

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

I'm sorry, I'm browsing from /all. You don't actually mean they only started allowing notification sound customization 17 versions into their OS, right? You're making a joke?

Because holy hell, what basic functionality that should have been included over a decade ago.

[-] osprior@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

You've always been able to change it for built in applications (messages, mail, phone, etc.). I assume the above poster was joking? Or maybe there's some nuanced feature they added around it recently.

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

You could only change certain applications, if they allowed it. But the general, default notification sound was decided by Apple and couldn’t be changed until 17.2.

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[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 144 points 7 months ago

Every modern release of iOS is more like Android, and every modern release of Android is more like iOS. Welcome to convergent evolution.

By 2030, the only major difference between Android and iOS will be that, when you hit the bottom of a scrolling page, one will be a little bouncy and the other will be a little stretchy.

People will still fight over which OS is the best.

[-] pufferfischerpulver@feddit.de 10 points 7 months ago

Bullshit, by 2030 everything will be doomscrollable thanks to generative text AI. Our marketing department has done some research and concluded that our customers will stop using their device if they hit the bottom.

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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 71 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

this is an unpopular opinion but i know the aesthetic reason for apple not implementing this for so long, and like eveything, it’s to make money.

android design is pretty good, but user created android phones home screens can often look pretty hateful, often with 4-6 screens of more empty space than icons, tons of widgets with an inconsistent design scheme, random half empty folders and a notification bar overcrowded with overshrunk icons. android phones often look like old Windows XP desktops—even on flagship distributions.

in contrast to google, apple cares what your phone looks like because they have a highly visual brand.

apple, by not allowing placement anywhere intentionally enforced a consistent top-left to bottom-right aesthetic which is now ubiquitous to the brand. among other design decisions, the result is that when you blur your eyes and look at a phone home screen you can tell whether it is apple or not.

but the functionality is worse, yes i know.
but it actually does look worse too, to you maybe, but not to apple. my belief is they did this for the same reason they put the magic mouse’s lighting port on the bottom (to keep users from always using it plugged in. which looks “ugly”).

the power of a strong and unmistakable brand is incomparable. in many cases, the value of a brand can even outperform raw product utility when it comes to customer satisfaction, a theory which i believe apple has been leveraging in this case very much intentionally despite the seeming paradox of utility.

edit: already getting downvoted to heck i should have known better than to be aware of basic marketing principles lol. i promise you im not defending apple im just explaining why they did this to make more money.

[-] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Your comment isn't even that pro-Apple, and it's much more generous towards Android's design than you'd find on any other space titled apple_enthusiast.

And generally speaking isn't that the exact reason they gave for not adding widgets right away? I thought this was more well known fact than an opinion.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 7 months ago

i was getting close to -10 points for a second 😭 i guess the sane people that don’t just knee jerk vote were asleep

idk about the widgets lore i literally don’t follow apple at all i just happen to know about marketing and design stuff

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[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

I’d be shocked if they just cloned Android’s default functionality and called it a day. Like the App Library, they’re probably going to try to have a unique spin on it, and will try to address some of the user experience quirks that a lot of iOS users don’t like.

I’ll bet money that it’s going to be pre structured layouts that look nice, like the Apple Watch, with one layout being “go nuts.” A CMS template system for the Home Screen.

[-] Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

Im manifesting this 😭

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 7 months ago

i could definitely see that happening

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[-] Jesus_666@feddit.de 11 points 7 months ago

I have to disagree on one point – that iOS home screens somehow look more orderly because they're full of icons arranged in a strict top-left-to-bottom-right fashion. It doesn't look any less cluttered than an overly full Windows desktop.

I found desktops that limit themselves to core functionality and maybe a nice wallpaper to be better looking and more usable since the days of Windows 95 and that hasn't changed since.

That "strict grid of icons" look certainly is uniform across iDevices and that's what appeals to Apple but I never found it to be particularly attractive.

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[-] kokopelli@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Wow… I never thought of the Magic Mouse thing, yet you’re entirely correct. Everyone would use it like that, and honestly it does look better without being plugged in (although everything else about it sucks, I hate that damn mouse)

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 64 points 7 months ago

How courageously innovative. I bet their implementation will be extremely polished because they waited so long. /s

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago

Only took them 18 major version releases. Maybe one day we'll get to choose an alarm snooze timer than isn't 9 minutes something.

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago

Welcome to apple_enthusiast, where most of the comments seem to come from people that haven’t had iOS as a daily driver since the iPhone 3 or 4.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 7 points 7 months ago

My gf has an iPhone 14 which I bought for her. I've had to use it several times and I hate the damn thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] kokopelli@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

What part? Genuinely curious as I enjoy both. Only thing I actively despise is the inability to natively use manual focus

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[-] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

LOL

[-] 0xD@infosec.pub 26 points 7 months ago

How will Apple users now manage with so many decisions to make??

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

So now they can do something that nearly every Android home screen installable can do.

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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Wow, I'm glad Apple engineers finally figured out how to invent this feature. I can't wait to be told at a keynote how bold, innovative, and courageous this is.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

Oooh wow will they let you change your brightness and font too?

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 months ago

Welcome, to the world of 2015!

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[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

iOS lookin more like Android with each release.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And as a developer android is looking more and more like iOS as it becomes more restricted on what you can do.

The two are converging

Source: literally spending my day today dealing with every more restrictive APIs on newer Android versions

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[-] Glowstick@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I'll believe it when i see it