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Vietnam seeks death for tycoon in $12bn fraud case (www.bangkokpost.com)

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 98 points 7 months ago

We seem to like to draw a line between crimes where the damages caused are visible from those where the damages caused are less visible, but its undoubtable that the crimes of the wealthy, so called white collar crimes, cause just as real material pain and suffering and societal damage.

If anything, the consequences of a crime should be scaled by your wealth and privileged in a society, because you really have no excuse for not following the law. Earn above a million dollars a year? Well a parking ticket costs you 10s of thousands of dollars? Earn above a billion a year and park outside the lines? Gallows.

[-] fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Earn above a billion a year and park outside the lines? Gallows.

Making these people members of the working class is a fate worse than death.

I think we should just do that.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 7 months ago

Sure, but at least tar and feather them first.

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[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

If proven beyond a doubt, I agree. But the communist leadership has been fairly lax on enforcement ... until now that is. One has to wonder why all of a sudden they've decided to do something?

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 56 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I feel like this is an important thing.

Top global firms, such as Ernst & Young and KPMG, did not flag concerns about the bank in their audits, public documents show.

[-] BugKilla@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

The board, CEOs and senior executives of these leeches need to be standing in line holding their wicker baskets.

[-] az04@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago

The state shouldn't be in the business of killing people.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

While true, billionaires shouldn't be in the business of existing.

[-] Hooverx@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago

$12 billion dollars is the equivalent of the 1.3 million years of work in vietnam. that's the livelihoods of more than 34000 people, stolen to profit one person.

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago

Killing them won't change that.

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The Vietnamese government does things like this on a cyclical basis. Every rich person here and everyone in government is corrupt as fuck. The president resigned a few hours ago over corruption. The president before him resigned just over a year ago over corruption. They're all stealing money. New government comes in and puts the old government in jail for corruption. A newer government comes in and puts that government in jail for corruption. Death sentences for people in top positions and bankers and whoever else. But they're all corrupt. Everyone above middle class here is corrupt.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Completely agree. Except for billionaires. Kill them all and do something useful for society with their money.

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago

Man people on this site are so bloodthirsty. Why not just seize their assets and liquidate them?

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I honestly think there is comfort in the idea that it will literally never happen so it's easier for them to throw around "guillotine" in place of "I'm mad and I hate these people."

They'll still argue that they mean it but they will literally never do it.

Never.

Again for those in the back, you people will never break out the guillotines, it's all talk.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

The damage billionaires can do by leveraging their money is so immense it could financially ruin many people's lives. How many end up homeless or kill themselves out of despair? Their one life isn't enough to balance the scales but it'll send a very clear message to white collar criminals once one is executed: the damage you do is tantamount to first degree murder and will be punished as such.

[-] Schnabeltierpoet@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

Why not just seize their assets and liquidate them?

YES, YES! Seize their assets and liquidate the billionaires!

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[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 27 points 7 months ago

Finally, some good news!

[-] danh2os@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

That's a lot of dong.

[-] Thassodar@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Over 9000 dong, 4% of their GDP.

[-] jwt@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago

You really shouldn't call their P gross.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

The guillotine you say?

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

I'm ok with this.

[-] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 74 points 7 months ago

I'm not. Imprison her for life, but the death penalty is never acceptable as long as there's even the slightest chance of a false conviction. As long as "the system" can get it wrong, it should not be allowed to carry out irreversible punishments.

[-] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago

I get what you're saying and I can't say I disagree, but conversely:

Eat the rich

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 7 months ago

Sadly, prions are terrifying, so eating the rich is not a practical possibility.

Now, feeding them alive to the big cats at the zoo, on the other hand, would serve the same purpose, and entertain the kitties to boot, which the brain control parasites my kittens have infected me with tell me is a good thing, and since we don't eat them or anything that eats them there's no risk of prion spread, at least until deer chronic wasting disease inevitably spreads to humans and kills us all.

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[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As they say, there are no ~~moral~~ ethical billionaires. In order to enrich themselves so much over their peers, they have necessarily trampled over them.

I do agree that giving a government the official power to just execute whoever they want (it would be trivial to manufacture a case like this in Vietnam) is a very bad precedent to set.

But, I mean, Vietnam is an authoritarian government, so this shouldn't surprise anyone.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Very rare Vietnamese W

[-] lledrtx@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

WDYM? Common Vietnamese W

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 6 points 7 months ago

They're not exactly known for human rights support.

On the other hand, they actually stopped a genocide in living memory, which is more than you can say for most nations.

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

The whole country is corrupt, it's just so open and brazen. No one would be left alive if they did this to anyone guilty.

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