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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by ajsadauskas@aus.social to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

What should I add to my '90s website?

So I'm currently toying around with NeoCities, and decided to trial it by building your classic mid '90s Geocities/Tripod/Angelfire pastiche website.

Some of the most important elements are already in place.

Tile background? Large font? Heading in bright pink with a shadow? Unusual colour choices? Random cat gifs? Under construction gif? Check! Check! Check!

In the true spirit of the '90s DIY web, some more pages (including the links page) are coming soon.

(I'm thinking of adding a page dedicated to either Britney or a nu-metal band.)

You can see the page so far here: https://that90ssite.neocities.org/

There are a few things that I want to add to make it complete, and I'm looking for suggestions.

The first, is to embed a midi file that plays automatically. Any suggestions on the best way of doing this?

Second, it's just not going to be complete without a guestbook.

Third, any webring suggestions?

Fourth, what's the best way of adding a java chat room in 2024?

Finally, anything else that really needs to be a part of a great '90s website?

UPDATE: Thanks for all the feedback! I've added more annoying GIFs, a guestbook, a links page, and a cyber cat hangout.

UPDATE 2: And added even more gifs, an amazing Amiga demo, and a ton of links.

@asklemmy #tech #webdev #neocities #technology

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[-] Nath@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago

You need this image:
http://hwg.org/images/lo-025.gif

You can even go all out and actually join legitimately: http://hwg.org/services/logo/

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago

Heres a site in the similar vain, https://anarchymeanything.com/

Guest book,

Webring

Visit counter

Good luck, i like the older internet so much nostalgia

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

There is not enough contrast or too much contrast between your text and the background.

What I’m trying to say is that is too easy on the eyes to read the text. 😂

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

My wife just added that it should have some background music.

[-] arken@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Yes, the background pattern and colours should be chosen to actively interfere with reading any text on the page. For example, it's great if there's large patches of black in the background and the text is also black.

Flashing is also key. A lot of text should be flashing and there should be unreadable ticker tape text at random places.

[-] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 5 points 9 months ago

Can we have a globe please that magically spins?

[-] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 9 months ago

Custom curors that animate at rest and during loading so you're not sure which part of the curors clicks, and also not sure sure if something is being loaded or not. Bonus points if the cursor changes to yet another ambiguous animated one as you hover over a tiny button which would pause the midi track.

[-] pacoboyd@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The midi file doesn't play automatically, but I see that's a thing your working on.

Also need gifs of Bart Simpson saying "Don't have a cow man"

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 9 months ago

It should work at 640x480 and no other resolution.

[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 5 points 9 months ago

Needs an animated gif that doesn't properly render transparency, so the background is just a solid color.

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[-] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

Needs a blink tag and some old style Microsoft Word art.

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 4 points 9 months ago

Line by line loading images, maybe an error message saying the connection dropped with the modem sound playing to restart the page.

[-] scorpious@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Fun idea. ASCII Art!

[-] lachlan@mastodon.social 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

@ajsadauskas @linux Image maps? <marquee>? A digital view counter, or one of those gifs of a spinning odometer.
A link that goes to a clip art digger saying 'under construction' in 90s office clip art.

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[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago
[-] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Nah that was a 2000s thing. It existed, under different names and owned by different companies in the 90s up until 2005 when it was bought by Adobe but you wouldn't likely have seen flash elements on webpages. I think it was more of a vector drawing tool around that time.

[-] dan@upvote.au 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Internet Explorer had an API called ActiveX, which let you run native code in the browser. Flash was an ActiveX object, but there were others available too. Adobe Shockwave was already available for Internet Explorer 3 in 1996 (https://news.microsoft.com/1996/06/03/microsoft-and-macromedia-deliver-shockwave-and-activex-to-millions-of-web-customers-and-developers/), and in the 90s you'd usually see either Shockwave or Java.

A precursor to Flash (FutureSplash) was already available in the 90s too, but it wasn't quite as popular yet.

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[-] FireWire400@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Background audio player that automatically plays some crusty grunge midis

[-] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago

That cat is way too high res

[-] ShadowCatEXE@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

You need some “important” data that’s in an unstyled bulky table. You also need some horizontal rules on the page to split up content.

[-] unixben@aus.social 4 points 9 months ago

@ajsadauskas @asklemmy iframes - you definitely need them

[-] bjornsno@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Guestbook didn't work, after recaptcha it just said POST failed. Oh and you need a visitor counter!

[-] weew@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

Comic Sans MS

[-] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago

That site would have been considered remarkably beautiful and aesthetically pleasing. As such it's not quite realistic.

Much too legible. I recommend less contrast for the text.

I don't see you playing with alignment? I would like more centered text personally. And long lines of text without breaks.

Why not throw in some "lorem ipsum" placeholders.

Are you using a WYSIWYG editor?

Where are your dancing hampsters?

Also is this before or after it became trendy to copy/paste all sorts of scripts into the html? Remember scrolling text on the status bar, how about those ascii things that follow your mouse around?

I'd keep an eye on your page's size, remember we would be loading this on 56k dialup modems... if we were lucky!

[-] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago

Also remember the nearest comparison to building a website, was a book, magazine, or newspaper. So just plop those text and images down as if it was a book, only ever intended to be viewed at one fixed resolution (say, 800x600). No smartphones yet. No apps to inspire us. No web 2.0. No emphasis on minimalism or dynamic content.

Unexpected and unpleasant things should happen with different browsers, window sizes, etc.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

Spinning wordart!

[-] xilliah@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

256 colors. Especially for that background. Or maybe even less and use dithering.

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 3 points 9 months ago

Infinite popups, simulated of course now that most web browsers block popups.

[-] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

Put some more random badges on the bottom
This site has a lot of them: https://web.badges.world/

[-] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 3 points 9 months ago

Oh man -- you need a blink tag on some of that text. Support for the tag has been removed from all modern browsers.

So you'll need to add it in with javascript that updates CSS or something.

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[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

BOOTSTRA.386 (okay, on second thought, that's more the 80s and doesn't really fit.)

[-] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

You might get some useful ideas on !oldweb@lemmy.ml (although it seems abandoned now)

[-] ComplexLotus@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

use html tables with large borders ... or that is how I feel the old times look

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[-] travis_nice@bne.social 3 points 9 months ago

@ajsadauskas @asklemmy You need to change the mouse cursor to anything but an arrow. Bonus points if it leaves a trail. Like a peace sign cursor that leaves a rainbow trail, or a clock face where the numbers fall off when it moves.

[-] cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world 3 points 9 months ago

I love it! Takes me right back. I was going to suggest adding a visitor counter but you already had it.

[-] NeroC_Bass@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

I had to go dig up the link again. Was looking for this folding license plate step thing I saw once, and found the sellers website. Looks like it is also straight out of the 90's

http://markthree.com/custom_vans_license_plate_steps.htm

[-] hit_the_rails@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago

This is going on my bookmarks toolbar. Thank you!

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Needs more dancing Jesus

[-] dingus182@endlesstalk.org 3 points 9 months ago
[-] scrummy@jawns.club 2 points 9 months ago

@ajsadauskas @asklemmy (Trying to remember my own GeoCities site from back then), Many had a “best viewed on Netscape” icon

I think mine had mostly my own song lyrics, with a different background for each page, with a menu page and forward/back links on each lyrics page.

Were frames 90s? Friend of mine used frames to make his site look like a console from Star Trek TNG

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@ajsadauskas@aus.social @asklemmy@lemmy.ml I think I actually have a few of my 90s-era sites archived. One of them should have an auto play midi for the background music. I'll see if I can dig it up!

@ajsadauskas@aus.social @asklemmy@lemmy.ml I actually started down this path a little while back and have since gotten sidetracked.

https://weblike99.com/

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