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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Bob@lemmy.zip to c/games@lemmy.world

Hi, I can't get enough D&D, so was wondering if someone could suggest a computer game that involves actual role-playing, like making a character with personality where interacting with the world based on that personality matters? I've tried some of the traditional D&D games (like DDO), and there is essentially no role-playing involved. You just build characters and run around and kill stuff. That's the hack-and-slash version of D&D that I don't enjoy. I'd preferably like games that aren't super expensive; I think maybe WoW might fit my RP desires, but the $15/month subscription is too steep for me. And I don't want a PvP game. Any suggestions? (Edit: Specifically I'm looking for PC and/or Android games)

Edit: Thanks for all the great suggestions. I've "wishlisted" a lot of them and decided to start with Disco Elysium. I expect to try a bunch of the others throughout the year!

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[-] ledditor@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

Divinity Original Sin 2 is exactly what you’re looking for.

Baldurs Gate 3 will be out soon and is in early access. Check it out after DOS2.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

This.

Original Sin and 2 were literally created to be video game adaptations of d&d. they didn’t have the rights so they made their own thing, but it essentially uses the rules of d&d.

Now they’re doing Baldur’s Gate, so they get to make the game we’ve all wanted all along.

[-] uskok@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Can you elaborate on this? Rules of D:OS games don't resemble DND at all. They are classless systems.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Now that I’ve tried to find an official source stating it was dnd or that was the creator’s original intent, I realize I am probably just repeating internet rumors/lore.

My bad.

I would, however, argue that they are classless systems. You have a lot of freedom, but there are base stats and a leaning toward a specific role. Even dnd can be like this if you multi-class. There are homebrews from DMs that create all new classes (much like if you wanted to create a non-templates character in d:os).

It uses turn based combat based on initiatives, uses difficulty scores or ac scores to determine if you hit and damage done. It has an action and movement as your general turn (possibly a bonus action if there are leftover APs). It’s a story where you can do almost anything and there are consequences to actions.

I could be stretching some of this, but it definitely is trying to emulate a TTRPG experience in video game form.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago

IMO WoW is not a good game at all if you are looking for "role playing". It's a multiplayer online game and all the quests boil down to simple linear stories. There is very little player choice, and the other humans playing the game make it impossible to suspend your disbelief and actually imagine your character as a real person in the game world.

I would recommend Dragon Age: Origins. BioWare games in general have always been great at letting you build a character where role playing choices matter a lot. Other games I would recommend for RPGs with a capital R and a capital P:

Tyranny (choices matter a lot in this one. There are basically 4 or 5 distinct stories in the game depending on choices you make)

Fallout New Vegas (any of the fallout games are good, but this one has the best writing IMO)

Mass Effect Legendary Edition (play all three in order)

Pillars of Eternity 2

Pathfinder (Kingmaker or Wrath of the Righteous)

Divinity Original Sin 2

Baldur's Gate 3 (Early access right now but should be releasing soon)

[-] AlmostEveryoneSucks@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Dragon Age: Origins is incredible, definitely one of the best RPGs ever.

[-] AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago
[-] RampagingPlant@jlai.lu 10 points 10 months ago

Seconded, but do also strongly consider pirating it. The original devs have have been fired from their studio. Essentially Kombus and Haavel took out company funds and bought majority share of the company with it, then fired the original devs. Honestly it's kind of fitting if you enjoy the game in a non-consumerist manner.

[-] Bob@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm going to start with Disco Elysium; it sounds really interesting.

[-] Clueless_Guy29@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Disco Elysium was inspired by Planescape: Torment, which is a D&D game! It's got a really deep story and roleplaying so check it out!

[-] Amongog@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago

Divinity: Original Sin 2 is for you!

Larian did an incredible job with that game and it's truly a masterpiece. If you have friends, you can play online co-op and have a blast.

And if you have a SO, make sure to try it out as well! The split screen implementation for this game is amazing, and the controller support is second to none.
In fact, I switched from M+K to the controller just because it was so much better.

By the time you're done, Larian Studio's Baldur's Gate 3 will have been released (Aug 3rd), and it seems it's going to 1-up every other RPG out there by a mile!

I hope they can implement the same controller scheme and split screen system with BG3 as well, since it's so much better for couch co-op.

[-] bobettes_bob@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I have a couple of suggestions that I liked a lot.

-Disco Elysium, very well written. Get the directors cut version, it's fully dubbed. One of the best crpg I played. There's pretty much no fighting in the game. Almost everything is solved with discussion.

-Divinity Original Sin 2, great crpg with a "DM" mode and can be played in multiplayer. Great story and lots of different paths.

-Planescape Torment, such a beautifuly written game. The enhanced edition is currently on sale for like 5$

All three have a very different vibe to them. And I think all three are a must play for fans of the genre.

[-] eltimablo@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Gonna tack Pillars of Eternity onto that list. It's so fucking good. The modern Pathfinder games are similarly excellent, as well.

[-] Bob@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to start with Disco Elysium; it sounds really interesting.

[-] glau@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Most classic RPGs have lots of combat. What I don't see mentioned here so far is Neverwinter Nights. Especially the first expansion of the second game. Mask of the Betrayer. Lots of combat of course, but a story that your behaviour has an impact on. Search for a cookie cutter build, lower the difficulty. You can skip through the combat parts quickly that way, if you don't like them.

Also mentioning Planescape Torment again because it's weird and not so combat focused.

[-] kingthrillgore@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

OG Fallout 1 and 2 are pen and paper games mechanically. Must plays.

[-] theAndrewJeff@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Really you can’t go wrong with most of Obsidian’s games. Pillars of Eternity is a fantastically written game with excellent role playing. You can literally have an in-depth conversation with one of the gods of the world with a certain background that I thought was surely going to be flavorful only.

A certain character asks you if you are real and your response options are: -Yes -Yes (lie) -No -No (lie)

It’s absolutely incredible. There’s a ton of thought out into the world and often your class and background offer alternative dialogue options with characters.

I’ve also played Divinity Original Sin, and while it’s a great game for interesting combat interactions, there’s not a lot to bite into for role playing imo. You get some dialogue choices, but they aren’t very interesting or flavorful, and I’m pretty sure they don’t change based on any factors other than maybe if you failed a quest rather than succeed. It’s a fun game, but not much of an interesting story. It’s got couch co-op, so it can be a fun to play with a partner or a friend if you want a better role playing experience.

[-] ForceGhost@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

You could look at the Bioware games (Mass Effect, Dragon's Age, Knights of the Old Republic). The old Elder Scrolls games let you play the way you want. Final Fantasy has an extensive free trial as well

[-] Talaraine@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Came here to say this. Bioware has been a bastion of this type of game for decades. You owe it to yourself to check out their creations.

[-] arby@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Lord of the rings online. Yes it's old, but it's still a beautiful game. You customize your race, appearance, class, etc. You can play solo or join a kinship (guild.) Some kinships are roleplaying exclusively, some are not. I've found the community to be more welcoming and friendly than other MMOs. There are multiple servers with different countries of origin and some servers have more roleplaying too. Check out lotro-wiki.com if you're interested.

[-] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

The Baldur's Gate series has some roleplaying involved in that while the story is fairly scripted your characters behaviour affects the outcomes of various events (with some unique trees branching off). Additionally, the more your actions diverge from the team's alignments the greater the odds members will outright leave.

It's not perfect, but you really won't get that from any game without multiplayer involvement. In the end almost all roleplaying in electronic games can be boiled down to simply making multiple-choice decisions that result in a predictable chain of consequences/output.

Mass Effect is similar to Baldur's Gate in this respect though much more dialogue driven. Fallout Series is another that you might like too.

[-] mark3748@geddit.social 3 points 10 months ago

Maybe Wartales would work for you.

https://wartales.net

It’s a really good RPG, lots of content and customization so every game is different, your choices matter, and supports up to 4-player co-op. It’s fairly similar to TTRPGs in a lot of ways.

[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Baldurs Gate would be just for you then. You can find 2 for real cheap, or wait for BG3 to release in…. Days? Weeks? Soon.

[-] MassKirbycide@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The Pillars of Eternity games provide some of what you’re looking for, as they’re heavily inspired by the old Baldur’s Gate games (which were themselves built on D&D).

[-] Rayston@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

You might also consider MMOs. Theres always a few guilds that do the RP thing. Not my personal cup of tea but people seem to like it.

[-] the_vale@apollo.town 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

To add to some of the suggestions in the thread, check out Solasta: Crown of the Magister, it didn't have as big of a budget as something like Baldur's Gate 3, but it's a fun little game that uses the D&D 5E rules (the ones that were in the SRD, to be more precise).

I can see it's on sale now, but I will say that some content is locked behind DLCs. It also has support for steam workshop, allowing people to make custom campaigns, and I recommend the Solasta Unfinished Business mod, which adds a whole bunch of stuff that's missing from the base game, for example multiclassing.

[-] Skua@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is a bit of a different tack to the other suggestions, but you could look at Crusader Kings. It's a strategy game, but instead of playing as a country or similar, you play as specific person. When that person dies, you play as their heir, in whatever situation you left for them. There's less depth to some of the role playing systems than there would be in an RPG, but on the other hand it has thousands of characters dynamically simulated to do their own things, so stories emerge from that instead. 2 and 3 are both solid, 2 has a bit of a steeper learning curve and isn't as well balanced as 3 but it is cheaper and has more systems expanded through DLC if you do get in to it

[-] Garden_Ramsay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Baldurs Gate 3 comes out August 3rd on PC, Sept for consoles. It's right up your alley. Early access is going on still if you want to try it. You can fully flesh out your character in pretty much every way. 10/10 would recommend.

[-] Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

You know honestly this is what I do in Skyrim after getting past the starting quests. What's that the graybeards want to talk to me, na I'm good, let me go do some dungeon crawling instead. Saving Skyrim can wait I'm sure.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

The cryptic mmos are micro transaction based but its a mix of costuming and pay to get powerful fast. Light grinding over time will give you a top tier character. Role playing is not needed to play the games but they all have guilds of some sort that do it you just have to find one. The three games they have run a good gambit of world types. superhero, future high tech (startrek specifically), and sword&sorcery (neverwinter). One note is they have lots of customization for abilities but also chacter look. So much so that folks roleplay other franchises on startrek (starwars, stargate, doctor who) and like verything in champions as its costume options are insanely varied (its pretty much in maintenance mode but costumes are the things regularly added). All the games are relatively easy to play if you build your character well but neverwinter is a bit more "get gud" and maybe the most pay for power.

[-] Kovu@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The original deus ex

[-] Bob@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks for all the suggestions! Lots of stuff for me to try out.

[-] Yoryo@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

Try Crusader Kings 3. Very mod friendly and a lot potential for lore building.

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