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I don't understand how Lemmy.world developers managed to surpass both Lemmy.ml and Beehaw.org instances in user activity.

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[-] Pavidus@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

Why did I create a Lemmy world account as opposed to beehaw or ml? Because it's the first one I saw. Because it doesn't matter. Because I don't know what ml stands for. Because Lenny world said "general use." Because I didn't have to fill out an application. Because I can still interact with everything else, and again, it doesn't matter.

[-] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
[-] grozzle@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

the national tld for Mali, but the lemmy ml owners chose it for a "Marxist-Leninist" reference. no kidding.

fun fact - they* also deny genocides committed by (even nominally) communist regimes.

*a lot of them, and even those who don't actively, still stick with the goons who do.

[-] sgtlighttree@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Oh dear, and I thought it was somehow related to machine learning/AI stuff

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[-] flamekhan@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

The developer for RIF told me to come here. I figured that I should trust the person that created the app that I've used for hundreds of hours.

[-] GoosLife@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Same. Like the parent of a child grown up, RIF has been forced to let us go, but not without influencing our direction lol

[-] Quill0@lemmy.digitalfall.net 10 points 1 year ago

My exact reason. Had the popup show.

Then I created my own instance

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[-] shinnoodles@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Regardless of the how, I think it's really cool that the top instance isn't run by the devs. Really shows off the power and appeal of decentralized services.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy.ml had sign ups closed. Behaw required a short story or something to get accepted. Lemmy.world was accepting sign-ups wasn't hosted somewhere shady and had active communities. It was a pretty easy choice. Assuming the admins have a pledge drive or something to host on AWS/GCP so we can get better burst capabilities I'd love to donate.

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[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy.ml actively asked people to sign up elsewhere. They have a small server and aren't meant to be a general instance.

Lemmy.world is run by people who have one of the larger Mastodon servers, and actively advertises to be open and neutral.

[-] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It’s also the devs server and they have Lemmy code to write. Can’t be spending time moderating.

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[-] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's also presented as the default on most apps, I believe

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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I joined world before I knew what an instance was. When the RIF app shut down, the developer recommended lemmy.world. I honestly, thought it was a single website.

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[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Happens when you are one of the few allowing signups while others are blocking them.

[-] SMT42@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me honestly mostly the name. World. Seems like a default instance to me. What does ml even mean?

[-] CrimsonFlash@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

The name absolutely matters. Federation blah blah doesn't matter what instance blah blah and all that.

But regular people will flock to a "normal" or "official" sounding name and url. I won't be surprised if lemmy.world becomes the defacto instance

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[-] GiddyGap@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

That's why I went there as well. Seemed like the default.

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[-] anywho@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

.world is a catchy top-level domain

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[-] Laticauda@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Idk about other people, but I don't really know how the instances work and the lemmy.world instance name seems the least abstract. Beehaw was confusing because it's not called lemmy so idk if it's a different thing or what, and idk what .ml means or stands for. Lemmy.world just looks like it's the default lemmy instance to me as a dunce who doesn't know how lemmy works.

[-] liktwo@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

I think you nailed it. It comes down to usability and user experience. Migrating from Reddit and not knowing shit about fuck, I obviously choose the largest sounding instance (.world). I still haven’t understood the whole thing yet, but the novelty is exciting and I’m willing to learn. Mass adoption needs a more streamlined experience though.

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[-] Laticauda@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Idk about other people, but I don't really know how the instances work and the lemmy.world instance name seems the least abstract. Beehaw was confusing because it's not called lemmy so idk if it's a different thing or what, and idk what .ml means or stands for. Lemmy.world just looks like it's the default lemmy instance to me as a dunce who doesn't know how lemmy works.

[-] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Well put! I'm still very confused about "instances," and the way people talk about them makes it seem like you need to sign up for each one? But that can't be right, that would be way too confusing! Right? Lol.

Lemmy.world also seems like the best place to ask questions. Everyone I've encountered has been very helpful, and I see a lot of people talking about how positive the community is. So I'm trying to just sit back and enjoy the ride!

[-] pinwurm@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Imagine phone companies. An instance is like Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile or any other provider.

If you want to talk to your friends, it doesn't really matter what instance they're on.
A Verizon customer can still call a AT&T customer no problem. A Verizon customer doesn't need to also sign up for AT&T to do that. It all just.. works.

People talking about different instances is like people talking about different phone companies. "Verizon's coverage is better" or "T-Mobile has better support" or that kinda thing.

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[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

My leading theory is that both lemmy.world and lemmy.ml were in a list of 5+ “recommended” communities, and “world” is the only recognizable word that implies all-inclusivity. And now that the world population is so high, more people will assume that is the “default/correct” community.

I joined world because I figured it was a global community, and did not want to limit myself before I even knew what I was joining into. I may end up making 2 or 3 accounts just to have access to separate, possibly defederated, communities.

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[-] InTone@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

They weren't selective about who is joining (unless people were absolute douches) and the community is pretty much nice to get along with.

[-] Flicsmo@rammy.site 20 points 1 year ago

Beehaw defederates like it's going out of style, Lemmy.ml doesn't allow criticism of the CCP. Lemmy.world seems much more stable and neutral.

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[-] INeedMana@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

When I was joining ~a month ago the situation was very different

I tried lemmy.one - had some issues joining
I saw beehaw.org - no downvotes - not my jam
I saw lemmygrad.ml - too political for my tastes
I saw sopuli.xyz - most of local posts and server maintenance posts were in language I don't speak - maybe I can find something fitting me more?
I saw lemmy.world - small but not looking like private, in Europe, so pings should be ok and description seemed fine
I also saw lemmy.ml - seemed like the main instance with the most users - having some understanding of federation from Mastodon migration I decided to spread the load...

And here we are :D

[-] Strangian@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago
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[-] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Sync for Reddit suggested it, so here I am.

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[-] Myrbolg@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

As someone signing up for lemmy.world, my reasons were:

  • It sounds official or at least less obscure than ".ml" or "sh.itjust.works"
  • It sounded inclusive (we're all part of the world, so to speak)
  • It was in the list of default instances of Connect for Lemmy

Otherwise, I didn't give much though to which instance to pick.

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[-] Frostwolf@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Probably because its name sounds official and it allows quick registration while others need approval (some never approves you).

Turns out it’s the right choice as the admin seems very active in updates and fixes. Lemmy.world also has a more chill homey vibes. At least that’s what I observed so far.

[-] jcit878@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

in my case I couldn't sign up to ML it just kept timing out. this one didn't.

[-] d_ogg@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

When Lemmy.ml was still on top I initially tried to sign up and was unable to. They could not handle the influx when the first migration occurred during the blackout days.

Lemmy.world on the other hand worked just fine.

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[-] Saturn@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I think most of it has to do with that lemmy.world has better hardware than other instances. The admin Rudd has a lot of experience running federated services as well. So it may be his first rodeo lemmy-wise but not hosting a federated service with a large user-base.

So when a lot of smaller instances started getting overwhelmed and stopping signups, lemmy.world was going strong without the performance issues that other instances might see.

That along with the fact that NSFW content is allowed makes lemmy.world a good alternative for Reddit refugees looking for something stable with a similar set of rules as well.

I myself joined lemmy.ml at first, then beehaw.org when lemmy.ml asked everyone to spread out, and finally found home on lemmy.world because I didn’t really like how downvotes are disabled on beehaw. Not to mention the defederation that beehaw has done recently. Although I can understand and appreciate why they’ve done that.

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[-] notatoad@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

i checked out three or four instances and this one seemed to have the least amount of bullshit to deal with

[-] Darc@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I came here from Apollo for Reddit. There’s a web app called wefwef that is a lemmy client that literally looks and works EXACTLY like Apollo. It even has apollo json import to find similar communities. Anyway, .world is the first server listed in the list so it’s where I registered.

[-] Quaternions@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I tried to sign up with Beehaw.org, but for some reason it was taking forever. So I came here and joined. TBH, I'm still getting the hang of this whole lemmy. thing. lemmy.world seemed like a good option.

[-] lazyslacker@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

RIF specifically directed me here. I didn't join one before that because I didn't know which one was "best". I honestly don't care which one I joined, I just wanted to be on the one everyone else is on. I know this mindset somewhat defeats part is the purpose of the federated communities. I don't care about that in the slightest I just want a clone of Reddit.

Also "world" sounds more generic/standard than ml. Most people probably think it's a military website or something.

You'll probably find 90%+ of casuals are in the same boat as me.

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[-] spark947@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

By keeping sign-ups open, mostly.

Lemmy.ml, to my understanding, was always meant to be a pilot instance from the devs of lemmy. Beehaw is kind of its own forum. There is also sh.itjust.works, but that has been caught up in some federation drama, and I don't think people like the name. Lemmy.world has been the right server at the right time to absorb everyone and I guess they have been able to keep up with sign-ups. Kudos to them.

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[-] GodyGade@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I read several guides that suggested .world, that's it.

[-] indomara@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I found a massive table of all the lemmy instances that allowed me to sort by features that were important to me. Does the community allow up/down voting, does it allow NSFW, does it allow porn? How many communities has it defederated with?

lemmy.world ticked all the boxes that were important to me.

[-] SeaOtter@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I didn’t really know what I was doing, and it sounded the most “official”.

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