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[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 79 points 9 months ago

Thank you for not calling us LatinX, I've yet to meet a Latino who doesn't hate that.

[-] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 38 points 9 months ago

I’ve never understood LatinX. Is it supposed to be a gender neural Latino/Latina? I’m only a Spanish beginner but I’m fairly sure Latino can be masculine and gender neutral.

[-] tuto193@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"LatinX" was indeed the first attempt at a gender neutral description. "Latino" is still considered by many native speakers to be "neutral", but the most feasible solution I've seen popping up is the "latine" (as in "estudiante", "vigilante", etc). Since it uses an explicitly non-gendered suffix, it is more correctly inclusive than the "latino". It will take a while though, und until it is really widely adopted.

[-] DudePluto@lemm.ee 26 points 9 months ago

"Latino" is still considered by many native speakers to be "neutral"

So like, is there any sizeable Latin community actually calling for a gender neutral term or is this just a middle-class white people thing? Because as a white person I've never seen anyone push for this other than white people and it just seems like a white savior/ daddy knows best thing. But my experience is just my experience

[-] j4p@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

There are some people who identify as Latinx. Pew puts it at 2-3% of Latin Americans, usually those who are non-binary.

I think the reason that it has the astroturfed white middle class vibe is that it’s really been pushed by corporate culture for whatever reason, who use it as catch all for all Latin Americans which clearly doesn’t line up with how the majority self-identify.

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[-] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago

I swear I replied to this and then both my reply and your comment disappeared 🤷🏼‍♀️

Thank you for the explanation. Is “le” as an indirect object pronoun the same kind of gender neutral example? I’m really struggling with that atm. Every noun is going to be gendered except him and her?! I suck at languages.

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[-] j4p@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

It was first seen in online queer activist circles around 2004. You can read a little about it here. Latino is traditionally masc/neutral but English style guides also said the same about “he” when referring to someone of unknown or unspecified gender for a long time, which has largely fallen out of use for singular “they” now.

Personally, I don’t use Latinx in writing to refer to all Latinos/Latinas as polling has shown only 2-3% of people readily identify with it. But I do think you absolutely should use it if that’s how someone personally identifies.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Am I the only one who reads LatinX as rhyming with larynx?

[-] elscallr@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

I read it as a Latino fetish porn site.

[-] Jmr@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago
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[-] elscallr@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

I'm not Latino, but I feel like that would annoy me. Latin@ as well. The language is gendered, trying to eliminate that is absurd.

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[-] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

It's coming around though. My gf watches a garbage amount of influencer bullshit, mostly mainstream streamers and such, and I've heard it quite a number of times.

[-] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

How many of them are actually Latino though? It seems like a term created and made popular by white liberals

[-] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

Lol all of them. We in Mexico. You’d probably be surprised that lgbtq people exist here on huge and proud numbers. Or would you also just assume they’re white liberals cosplaying?

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[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 29 points 9 months ago

Gotta be a troll.

[-] pigup@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

I'm here to say something stupid as well. Happy dumbassing everyone!

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

I haven't seen a mouthbreathing comment section like this since I left reddit. This is incredible.

[-] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 6 points 9 months ago

So far it isn’t as bad as I feared. It’s very early days though! I’m really keen to create a community where we can discuss any topic including contentious ones respectfully, rather than just avoiding posting anything that could bring out the trolls. I’m hoping the one-warning-then-you’re-banned rule will be sufficient to keep the worst at bay. Please report comments that break the rules if you see them to help keep this community an enjoyable place to be!

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[-] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 9 months ago

The colonizer is strong in this one.

[-] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 18 points 9 months ago

Hush now, she just loves really hard.

[-] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago

I just know she wrote this while sipping a Starbucks and wearing big sunglasses while indoors.

[-] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Lol latinos, where the original colonizers g. Anglo-Saxon's only made it amore profitable venture.

Btw Latinos made it profitable but that was when we still where speaking Latin

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

irish american

3/78ths irish. The fries you get at McDonalds are more irish than them

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

went to NYC with my (actual, County Cork) Irish friend. His deadpan "Oh yeah, where in Ireland are you from?" went over most people's heads.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 months ago

People don't understand that if you make shit up you just get laughed at

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[-] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago

Leave it to a white person to think they just get to use words however they want regardless of their actual definitions. SMH

[-] maudefi@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago

OP isn't ignorant because they're white, they're ignorant because of the impact of their social economic class on their education, life experience, and world view.

Your comment opening with:

"Leave it to a white person to..." Is blatant racism.

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Thats a good explanation. I'm saving that for future use. It seems easier to empathise with these people when you understand that they're a product of their environment and as much victims of the system as anybody else.

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[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

What in the white privilege is this horseshit?

[-] fr_mg@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

If you know how to dance "salsa", "merengue" and "bolero" could be good llover...and apply for "latina".

[-] teft@startrek.website 6 points 9 months ago

Could be good rain?

Llover is "to rain" in spanish.

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