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Maybe you guys should have thought this through. (lemmy.world)
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[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 150 points 8 months ago

Also, since the majority of fertilizations don’t result in a viable pregnancy or birth, Alabama’s child mortality rate is about to go through the roof. I’m going off of memory here, but I think that there’s only about a 50% chance of a successful implantation and after that there’s an additional 25% chance of miscarriage. And because those figures correlate with things like income, education, and nutrition - I think you see where I’m going.

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I actually was looking it up today because I remembered that little factoid that miscarriages are more common than we think.

The problem is that it is impossible to get accurate data because it happens so early that most women don't know at all that they were technically pregnant at all. If anyone wants to research it more the term is chemical pregnancy. It is called that because once the sperm implants in an egg, the body starts producing the hormone that pregnancy tests look for. This means you can have a positive test without successful implantation. We probably really only know it exists because of women trying rigorously to get pregnant, as the symptoms of this type of miscarriage can easily be chalked up to a heavy period.

Basically any percentage is an estimation based on that data. But just another drop in the bucket of facts against their feelings, an embryo is not a person.

🌠the more you know🌠

[-] Burninator05@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

I think the only way to ensure we capture the number is to assume that all unprotected sex results in a pregnancy. To get the mortality rate we just subtract the number of births from the number of sexual liaisons.

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 25 points 8 months ago

EVERYONE MUST REGISTER EACH SEXUAL LIAISON WITH THE STATE

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

[-] Nougat@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

There is no more perfect image for the circumstances.

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Fuck yeah, I'm down. It fits perfectly and makes just as much sense as all the anti-choice crowd uses to make laws that kills living breathing ~~women~~ incubators

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

When we’re doing medical monitoring of someone, we are pretty sure of what we’re looking at, just to be clear. There are definitive hormonal changes that can be observed as well as other symptoms, as you mention. It’s done particularly for people who are trying to get pregnant, and we extrapolate to the population scale using statistical analysis methods (adjusting for demographics and such).

And just to clarify, I’m not calling a failure to implant a miscarriage. I’m mixing it in with actual miscarriages in order to show that it’s ridiculous and that the “life begins at fertilization” crowd are as scientifically nonsensical as flat earthers. I am intentionally mixing them together, but wanted to be clear on that point.

[-] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I'm curious about the "other symptoms" you mentioned. Besides hormonal changes, what specific signs/symptoms would definitively indicate a successful implantation?

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

To be clear, my background is in biology. I’m not an obstetrician. The “other symptoms” to which I was referring related to a failure of implantation rather than the detection of a successful one may be the inverse of your question and I was specifically referring to the discharge.

My understanding is that, especially with the development of IVF technologies, they’ve introduced additional testing methodologies, but I’d defer to someone with more experience in that field.

If you want to talk about how eyes evolved a couple of dozen times or why UFOs are almost definitely not aliens though, I’m your guy.

[-] don@lemm.ee 37 points 8 months ago

…Alabama’s child mortality rate is about to go through the roof.

Looks like Alabama’s about to become some murderous fucking bastards who need to be imprisoned.

[-] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

"Uninsured Woman Denied Medical Care After Miscarriage, Charged with "Fetal Manslaughter" - More at 11

[-] ambrosiaforest@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 8 months ago

if you have a miscarriage could you be charged with manslaughter?

[-] IntriguedIceberg@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Babyslaughter

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago

What about child tax credits? Car pool lanes?

[-] Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago

They already started on the car pool question in Texas: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/12/us/pregnant-woman-hov-lane-roe-wade.html

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 17 points 8 months ago

Have an unblocked link?

[-] Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Sorry, just got it from Google and I’m not a subscriber. How’s this article look?

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/watchdog/2023/08/23/hov-lane-mom-fight-for-pregnant-moms-to-drive-in-high-occupancy-lanes-not-over/

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Nope

[-] Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Crap. Well it looks like reader mode works on the second one to get to the text. Not sure what the android equivalent is called.

[-] doublenut@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Already got the tax credit in GA

[-] nobeansplz@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

So if I have embryos that I am paying to keep frozen can I deduct them as dependent children on my Alabama state taxes?

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