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[-] DRx@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

lol had this happen to me the other day.

Typically I play classic rock at work like the stones, Beatles, eagles, etc and no one bats an eye and sings along. I played a song off hybrid theory and my tech walked by and went “wow that’s a throw back!” I immediately had a mini midlife crisis. That album is almost 24 years old btw, and I still remember the day I bought it.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Turns out you can't run the race. The pace is too fast, you just won't last.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 9 points 4 months ago
[-] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

In the end? I've given up...

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[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 35 points 4 months ago

I take umbrage at them being called "classic rock." Classic rock is, to me, a specific genre of rock music from the 60s–80s, and it has a particular style and sound.

Throwing Green Day and Linkin Park in with the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac just makes the word "classic" meaningless.

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 31 points 4 months ago

I've got some bad news: in the '80s we had classic rock and it didn't include '80s music.

[-] JokklMaster@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Yeah to me Classic Rock is 60's and 70's. Classic Rock is a genre not classic rock, rock which is classic, classic meaning it has stood the test of time. Linkin Park may be classic at this point, but they're not Classic Rock.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 8 points 4 months ago

I guess I just mean that it has a particular sound. 80s is maybe too late, I agree, but there was some overlap.

[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 10 points 4 months ago

My guy, those weren't called classic rock when they were still new. They were just called rock back then.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Because different subgenres emerged, and "rock & roll" needed clarification. The new subgenres already had adjectives. Those same adjectives apply, to-day, and they will never become original-flavor rock & roll.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Old enough to remember when the first 'classic rock' stations started replacing 'oldies' stations. In those days, the 'classic' stations would play new music from old bands, and even brand new stuff from new bands. These days, a "1980's" station would never play a record from 1979 or 1990.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 months ago

I think we'd have to differentiate what's considered classic from genres themselves. Rock's been around for about 70 years, so it makes sense that a classic era emerged about 20 or 30 years after that. You could see it as something of a golden age of the music. Punk started in the 70s, so if you want to call Green Day classic punk (although no one really uses that term) I think it'd fit.

Similarly if someone said classic ska I'd be thinking of 2nd wave, like the Specials, which is also about 20 years after the start of the genre.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 21 points 4 months ago
[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Editing comment because I had meant to make an op level comment

[-] don@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

lol They have no idea who this is

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[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Yep, and it's fine. We'll all get old, let's just take care of each other and fix the planet.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

Classic rock is a specific fucking genre! Eminem will never count. Slayer will never count. Black Sabbath will never count. Miles Davis will never count. Age has nothing to do with it.

Aerosmith's output circa 2000 is classic rock, but it was classic rock at the time. It was classic rock when it was new.

This is aggravating only because it's the same stupidity as using "new wave" or "modernism" to refer to, just, whatever's recent. It is a complete failure to understand how labels work. Linkin Park can't be classic rock for the same reason it can't be traditional blues, folk music, or classical. These words do not just mean... old.

The only reasons people say this shit are (1) simple mistaken ignorance, (2) stupid trolling, or (3) radio stations insisting the only categories of music are "classic rock," "R&B," and "country." Like ClearChannel trapped them in a timeless expanse by playing "the best of the 80s, 90s... and today." Today being the last twenty years.

[-] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Preach, friend. Got in an argument with my husband about this. He kept saying that it's a part of getting older but I refused to believe that.

I feel the same way about classic/ old school rap. It's a defined style of music, not just music your parents listened to.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Right: calling Prodigy "dad music" is a deep and vicious jab. Calling Prodigy "classic rock" is a category error.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

In the 70s lynard skynard was southern rock. The Beatles were British invasion. The byrds were psychedelic. Pink Floyd was prog. By the 80s-90s they were all classic rock. What makes you think the same thing won't happen to prodigy and Linkin park?

This post is giving strong "old man yells at cloud" vibes.

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[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 10 points 4 months ago

I thought we all agreed Linkin Park was NuMetal?

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Yes, we did. But "was" is the keyword here. Classic rock has for many decades now often included things such as rock, folk and metal within it. Adding Nu-Metal more recently isn't a huge stretch.

[-] Statick@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

Linkin Park is traditional blues. See how that doesn't make sense? Same goes for "classic rock".

Can't just change a genre because something is old. It's genre is NuMetal. Always had been, always will be.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago

Then we're just muddying and obscuring every genre, which is ineffective for any purpose.

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[-] Szymon@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

Yeah we're only around the 2nd pic, thanks. The second set of twenty goes by a lot faster than the first, enjoy today before it's a memory of times gone by.

[-] Postreader2814@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

I bought hybrid theory when it was new, back in 2001. 23 years ago. Still my favorite CD.

[-] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Your music taste hasn't advanced to where you don't appreciate Linkin Park anymore, in 23 years? That's gotta be a record.

[-] Postreader2814@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

Did you stop liking music you enjoyed as a kid?

[-] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Yes. Some music I liked as a kid turned out not to be good, because I mainly liked it cause I was a melodramatic kid and it spoke to the angsty emotions I had. Once I grew up a bit, Linkin Park started to seem childish. You don't like all the music you liked as a kid, do you?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

https://genius.com/Linkin-park-guilty-all-the-same-lyrics

It's insane, even corporate hands is filthy They talk team and take the paper route All they think about is bank accounts, assets, and realty

Why is this childish?

Or you could look at Rebellion talking about recognizing the suffering of others

I like them more as an adult

[-] Postreader2814@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

I still listen to every cd I've ever owned since I was 11. That was 24 years ago. Some I've added to a Google playlist of just 400 some'odd songs. Yes, I do still like all the music I liked as a kid.

[-] pythonoob@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago

I still like Linkin Park for sure but it's not like, the only thing I listen to.

I wouldn't say I listen to it any more often than it comes on the radio tbh.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 4 points 4 months ago

Careful with that edge dude.

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Your music taste just never matured. It's ok though.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

For me it was green day playing on the classic rock station. There's been many many other signs that I'm getting old but I can definitely remember that one.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

They're still making albums and have been for over 20 years.

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[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 5 points 4 months ago

linkin park is pop music

[-] CampRefugeeCounselor@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago

Is Linkin Park hyphenated?

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Xaviera Hollander said this.

A man's not old until there are no women his own age he finds attractive.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

Don't forget that nursing homes are full of people fucking

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Gerontophiles outplayed us all.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

That has a very boomer-esque "wives are bad" vibe.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

You have no idea who Xaviera Hollander is, do you?

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

None whatsoever. Looked her up, and it certainly changes the context!

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago
[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Very much so!

There are Zoomers who have children in school, so if the supposedly young generation is slowly turning 30, Millennials are ancient now.

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

classic rock

Listen up, whippersnapper. When I was your age, this was considered the Nu kind of Metal.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

I've been told by the kids that American pie is a country song

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

The youngest Millennials are 28 now, I believe.

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