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submitted 10 months ago by zecg@sh.itjust.works to c/jerboa@lemmy.ml

If I was logged into several instances at once in the client and seeing the composite feed and then could choose instance when replying or posting (with some set default, like from: field in e-mail clients) lemmy.world could ban piracy all it wants and it'd still be in my feed without me having to leave it or change instances.

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[-] reddthat@reddthat.com 63 points 10 months ago

The liftoff app has the ability to show multiple accounts across multiple instances.

Also... Lemmy.world has/will become the default at this point in time. When you eventually get big enough you even up having to cater for the "laws".

Are they defederating from instances that are neutral as well? Or defed'ing from the privacy instances?

[-] gabe@literature.cafe 4 points 10 months ago

It's deeply unfortunate it's essentially made itself the "default"

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 57 points 10 months ago

The entire point of federated social media is that you can swap instances if you don't agree with policies. That's the whole point of Lemmy!

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago

All lemmy needs is to allow us to export/import our sub and block lists to make it easy tbh. Then it'll be purrfect.

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

yeah I'd say user management across instances is the biggest flaw in the fediverse right now. Mastadon has made decent progress in that area, but it's still imperfect.

A lot of the benefits of federation are weakened by the fact that it's a pretty huge PITA to change instances

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

I want to move the communities I founded off of LW too.

[-] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 23 points 10 months ago

This is why you don't join the popular instance. Eventually the shitbirds ruin it.

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[-] faintedheart@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago

There should be an option to see all posts on our feed from all our instances. Then when commenting choose the instance from which the comment has to be posted.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

This needs to be done carefully. At the extreme you're asking every instance for a list of posts from all instances. It could become something like a DOS. Having just a few accounts should be fine though. Or just asking one instance for "all" and others for "local".

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[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 19 points 10 months ago

If I was logged into several instances at once...without me having to leave it or change instances.

So you're working around having to change instances by changing instances? Am I missing something?

[-] WorldWideLem@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

I think they're suggesting an aggregate feed from some number of concurrently logged in users.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Banning piracy? Like the mere encouragement or?

That instance is fast becoming moderated as just as much of a neoliberal authoritarian shithole as r/politics was 🤦

[-] nbafantest@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago

Banning any chance that instance owners face legal actions for piracy.

It's really not tough reasoning. The vast majority of instances will do the same.

[-] amju_wolf@pawb.social 27 points 10 months ago

The irony bring that Reddit itself doesn't ban piracy related stuff as long as you don't outright post links publicly... It's a shitty kind of platform to do that anyway.

[-] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I mean they have a legal team. Joe Shmo doesn't.

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[-] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Banning piracy? Like the mere encouragement or?

Just the mere encouragement & discussion, yes. The banned communities do not allow direct links to pirated content (!piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com has a rule forbidding that).

It's strange to see people saying there was some sort of legit reasoning, the lemmy.world admins did not receive any sort of legal DMCA/NTD request or anything of the sort. They were simply trolled hard by a brand new account from lemm.ee asking to defederate from "piracy" communities and lemmy.world admins took the bait. See the post yourself https://lemmy.world/post/3175920

Incidentally that same user has created troll accounts at other instances & have been getting themselves banned, they were already banned at the dbzer0 instance (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/1956277) so it looks like it was simple retaliation to attempt to trick other instances into defederating/blocking them.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 3 points 10 months ago

What an asshole! 🤬🤦

[-] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

neoliberal authoritarian shithole

Meanwhile the admin not wanting to deal with the inevitable legal trouble: T_T

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 15 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. I wouldn't be surprised if the admin got a few scary letters from several letter agencies.

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[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

I don't think it has to do with ideologies but more like the admins can't afford a fight against the very same people you're talking about.

[-] ribboo@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Meh. That’s not really how it works though. If pirated content is not actually spread on the platform nothing illegal is happening, and regardless, long before any fight was going to happen there would have been takedown request.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Sure, but why risk it when this is essentially a volunteer project?

I'm not saying they're right. I'm just saying I understand their concerns. Others don't care and allow piracy content just fine.

[-] zecg@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago

They banned piracy from lemmy.ml and dbzer0.com and also shrooms and other subs. They strive to be the aww emporium, it seems.

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[-] 30021190@lemmy.cloud.aboutcher.co.uk 16 points 10 months ago

Jerboa is fairly simple in terms of its the instance that does the majority of heavy lifting.

What you're asking for could be solved in Jerboa with some work, or you could host your own instance and get what you need now without community effort.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

The only thing I really want from Jerboa is a notification when any of my accounts has a reply/message.

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[-] zecg@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

At the moment, I don't know of any client that allows this, that's why I'm floating the idea where Jerboa people can see it.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Either I don't understand what you mean, or you're not aware that other clients can indeed do this, like Liftoff.

[-] zecg@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

Thank you, haven't tried Liftoff, will now.

[-] soullioness@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The Liftoff app is good and basically does this.

Play Store

GitHub

[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 4 points 10 months ago

Niche communities should be on niche instances and users should join smaller instances that federate with their interests.

[-] joe@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

This kind of defeats the purpose of federation, no? The point is, I thought, that it didn't really matter which instance you joined.

[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 3 points 10 months ago

It doesn't, but it doesn't mean organisation and thus increased discoverability are a bad thing

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[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Moving away from it is for the best. It makes the fediverse healthier.

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