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This is why I'm not having kids.
Same for me. That and being an irresponsible man-child who could probably never handle raising a child.
Yeah, I couldn't tolerate bringing a child into a dying planet. Seems cruel if your following these things.
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It'll be fine. It has all happened before. There was 5x to 10x as much CO2 in the atmosphere when the dinosaurs were alive (2000 to 4000 ppm).
All we need to do is kill off about 7 billion people and have the survivors move to the south pole atleast 300' above sea level.
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The world failed to take action against climate change, now they're going to be late to take action to the adaptation of civilization to a dangerous environment. Too late to stop climate change, it's time to think about adapting to a new environment.
Humanity can certainly adept to climate change, but these changes will also cause a lot of people to relocate. I’m not sure if society, in the current political climate, can adapt quick enough to be able to deal with the influx of possible climate refugees.
Climate change is one of the biggest reasons I don’t want children. I can’t put blinders on and then feel zero responsibility for dragging them into a hopeless nightmare.
i have kids. i actively worry about how miserable their future may be. i try not to talk about this stuff to them much because i don't want to scare them with it. i don't think there's anything i or they can do (except maybe vote).
I feel you. I have kids too. I fear for their future.
On the flipside, it's also true that if we all simply give up and don't have kids because the future looks so bleak, by definition we are admitting to a kind of psychic defeatism and epistemic hopelessness. Having kids is one of the best ways for regular people to have any hope of influencing the future.
i try not to talk about this stuff to them much because i don’t want to scare them with it.
IMO that's exactly the opposite of what you should be doing. Frankly, what we need is for folks to be raising a generation of Greta Thunberg-types.
See also the bit about "weaponized hopelessness" in the Kurzgesagt video mentioned elsewhere in the thread.
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When even Florida is telling you shit is fucked... Shit is FUCKED
To be fair (and the article does sort of mention this) we are in an El Nino year, so of course things are heating up terrifying fast. Thing is, El Ninos are impacted by climate change, so... This isn't a cop-out, it's just this is kind of as bad as it can get (for now) which is reassuring (hopefully?)
I would disagree: Since we’re still in the early phase of a new (super? As is being discussed) El Niño — later this year and likely next 1-2 year/s will probably be worse.
It really depends on so many things. AR6 was a depressing read, but we do still have different pathways, people are responding to the crisis. I have the privilege of seeing first hand the commitments being made by some rather large emitters and the actions being undertaken to meet those commitments. I guess what I'm saying is, we can still hope. We shouldn't give-up and resign ourselves to this fate.
On the other hand we literally have a CEO of a gas and oil company chairing COP28 next year... So... Yeah...
We need a system to hold those in power responsible for their promises and inactions.
I don’t trust corporations, the only thing important for them is the balance sheet, they will always take the easy and cheap way. There should be a world wide tax on all companies which decreases with the companies sustainability. Hit corporations where it hurts them: money.
The system is violence. Threat of violence is the only thing that would ever keep in check politicians and big business. Voting declares the people's will, but it is only backed by the threat of violence. Otherwise the people may say their will but the elite will not care. Hopefully things will become desperate enough for the violence to occur before it's too late
While I understand where you're coming from, do keep in mind that the same people that can afford to keep chugging along on the same path with only the bottom line in their crosshairs also have enough influence to make sure that once violence starts it gets promptly redirected. And masses of upset people aren't really coherent enough to keep a single goal in mind.
Hell, if you've ever tried to get 12 hungry people to eat lunch at the same time and decide on a place to get it from, you'll shortly understand what the phrase 'herding cats' means. Add to that a random 13th person that just pops up, whose neighbour owns the new lunch place on the corner and just 'offers other options' and you can quickly see how getting lunch becomes an exercise in futility.
And if smoke, mirrors and redirection don't work, civil violence is used as a pretext to intervene with force against protestors.
I honestly don't believe another French revolution is capable of happening again, ever.
The answer could be voting with your wallet, but remember the 'no preorders' crowds? See my point about herding cats.
Obviously the dude is not a biologist... Earth is gonna be fine long term, the other species are gonna be fine long term. The only thing we're running into the ground is ourselves.
Edit: check out all these clowns below who have a human superiority complex so inflated that they believe the earth will die with us 😂🤡
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This is the article that the linked article is about. I'm 99% sure Europeans aren't going to be able to access that link without a VPN because a lot of the local news sites refuse to comply with EU laws .
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