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[–] henfredemars@lemmy.world 97 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's been said to death but at heart, I've always felt that when it comes to piracy, it's a service issue, not a cost issue.

Except for you Adobe. That's a cost issue.

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago

Except for you Adobe. That's a cost issue.

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[–] med@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

I found out the other day that LibreOffice Draw has a full pdf editor built in.

I know adobe makes many more products, but boy do I like telling people they don’t have to pay for Acrobat!

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 74 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
[–] thedrizzle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Wow that's old.

Frankly, as shitty is a lot of that stuff was, DVDs were like the last form of media distribution that I would actually call tolerable in terms of consumer friendliness. You still got a physical disk with the actual movie that was easy to rip and share, no internet required. If it weren't for the quality limitations, I'd still collect them as the primary physical backup to my media server.

[–] 100@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

4k Blu Rays exist. Aside from the pain of having to get a special cracked drive to rip them they are my primary backup for my movie server.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

You just made me realize I could probably do this myself with a library card

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the only big shortcoming to DVDs was the region locking …

[–] monstoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's why we had a market for region-free DVD players!

[–] max2078@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

Some of these players even skipped the unskippable intros and always started at the main menu. The best thing for legit buyers and enthusiasts back in the day. And don't forget the (S)VCD support and DivX/Xvid support. Good old times.

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[–] ronondex@mlem.a-smol-cat.fr 31 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The issue with streaming companies is the exclusivity. I would happily pay for Netfix if I could watch Ted Lasso (= Apple+) and Halo (= Paramount+) on it.

But if you want access to original series you have to buy the platform. I pay around €45 total in VPNs, Seedboxes, Usenet indexers... per month. I would happily pay for Netfix if I had access to everything in the world for up to €50/month. But with netflix you get access to a shitty catalogue on only one device for €8/month... That's not okay for me.

[–] TooL@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

See they're doing you a favor by not letting you waste your time on that garbage that is the Halo show. What a farce.

[–] Nitrate55@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago

It's not even worth pirating, lol

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trust me. You do not want to watch Halo.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 10 points 2 years ago

Ugh, there has not been a TV show that has disappointed me as much recently as "Halo" has... It's a disgrace that it is even called Halo.

The disappointing thing is there were small tidbits of S1 where I said "Hey, if there was more of this then I'd be excited to for the next episode to air!" ... But no.

I like to joke and say "My disappointment is immeasurable" but this was certainly a case where I actually meant it.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago

I'm still only using legit services right now. For us the biggest thing we miss is the ability to actually find something specific. They work "ok" for just choosing something to watch from the algorithm, and that's only because we got like 4 services total. But if you want to watch a specific film? 9 times out of 10 it's not on any of them.

[–] Glunkbor@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Streaming companies are lucky that not more people know about Stremio + Torrentio + Real Debrid. That combination is a game changer and allowed me to get rid of all streaming services.

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[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

I've posted as much here in three weeks as i did on Reddit in three years. That's one post, but still. I am trying to be more active though to keep lemmy active and because it just feels more meaningful here.

[–] yetanotherusername@feddit.nl 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's weird that we have "capitalism" and there are people, who clearly have desire for a drm-free content. Hell, we even have a gog, where you can buy drm free games. Yet the market does not want to provide legal option to obtain films/shows that are not locked into the service.

And even with the gog there are still many games that are impossible to get drm-free in a "good" way. Not to mention emulation where things get kinda grey, depending on the system you are emulating

[–] shinjiikarus@mylem.eu 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is the same for eBooks imo. There are some sources of DRM free eBooks, but they don’t tend to have the popular books. I’m always buying on kindle, because it is so laughably easy to circumvent their DRM as long as one has a kindle serial number attached to their account.

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[–] halon5@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It’s why I pay for Spotify, convenience and pretty much everything in one place. For TV/Movies it’s Plex and the high seas.

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I pay for music, videogames, software... but not movies and shows. I wonder what those do differently

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[–] small44@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I think piracy is more convenient

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

100000000%, beyond the fact that I don't want to pay a thousand different subscriptions, I also much prefer having everything in jellyfin or Plex. I don't want to mess around with all these crappy streaming apps, each with their own set of limited functionality or handicaps.

Also, why would I want to watch low bitrate streams when I can get full quality Blu-ray rips. Hopefully someday streaming platforms will offer full bitrate video, as physical media will probably go away over time.

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[–] skomposzczet@vlemmy.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At this point it 100% is. I could bother and use nonsense apps, and their poor players. But now that I need 5 subscriptions and it's still like 40% chance that I find movie i want to see there it's simply stupid. Also consistency with plex and much better quality, not to mention frequently found bonuses like deleted scenes or interviews with creators / actors. Another thing, it's sad to see people switching to streaming lose their interest in exploring filmography by genre, director etc and only come down to brainlessly watching any garbage recommended by netflix.

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[–] Digester@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Piracy is the only viable option. The problem isn't the concept of a streaming subscription service, the problem is how many of them there are. A couple would be fine I guess but if we consider the fact that all the content is divided in more than 10 major services, it's no longer a viable option.

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[–] benpo@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I pay for Amazon Prime, but still get less buffer time by streaming torrents with Stremio, which also never fails to remember where I left a movie at (even if I change the torrent source, which is crazy)

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[–] jem0@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got no problem with streaming services competing and putting exclusive content on platform. What do I have problem with is them backing off from the things they advertised as when they were starting. Netflix literally rose in populating with ads saying "love is sharing the password" and other bullshit. Premium accounts were more expensive just so you can share your password with others. Nowadays they say it's no longer possible and you have to pay extra.

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[–] Arcterusax@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For me it hasnt been for along time. The site I use has everything as soon as its available, stores which episodes and at which time I was last time, has intro skip, autoplay and autonext. When i want to watch a series i just type the name in my browser, auto-complete the URL and i'm done. On netflix i have to tap through multiple menues, have to login and might even get blocked because im not on my home device. I get a better service in every aspect for free.

[–] mogranja@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 2 years ago

Care to share a link? Or PM, if that's a thing here.

[–] ReepusVanguard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago

One day piracy will catch up and everyone will be trading episodes of family guy, just like they used to with scanned disk and vhs cassets.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We traded ownership (physical media) for convenience. I was a matter of time until that came biting us in the ass

PS: I love the convenience of everything being in my computer without having to lift my ass to change media, so it's possible to have ownership AND convenience.

[–] WeetHet@programming.dev 11 points 2 years ago

Fmovies is more convenient than many streaming services though

[–] StrongGoal2001@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't use piracy for convenience. I watch movies and series together with my girlfriend (in a remote way) and we haven't found a way to watch together (Like Teleparty for Netflix or Disney Plus native "Watch Party") the content without the remote partner watching it in 320p (using Plex "Watch together" functionality). It simply doesn't work.

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[–] thedrizzle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (8 children)

With Sonarr/Radarr and Jellyfin, that convenience has effectively been trumped. I don't know how they can compete

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[–] Fais@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

My game changer was going to bflix.gg and downloading the android app from there (OnStream).

Every episode of anything can be streamed! If I get problems I can download an episode str8 on my phone. I use xcast to then chromecast it directly on my tv.

For anime, I go to 9anime.

LITERALLY FREE

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[–] Christos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Pay $100+ to get all streaming services or use my favorite site through my smart tv with adblock from my phone for free and get it all....... hmmmm

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago

Their entire existence is based on the monopoly of violence throwing you in jail when you make piracy more convenient

[–] RexKev@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I pay more for my personal setup each month than I would have to pay for all streaming sites combined.

Yet it's the ease of having Arr's and a personal server with almost zero limits to stream any content I want.

My setup includes :- Dedicated Server Usenet Indexers and Private Trackers

The only time I wouldn't find a movie or show I want would be a really old obscure media which doesn't seem to exist anywhere.

Everything else is grabbed from both via my Arr's and life is chill.

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