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[-] nekandro@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

This is just Zelenskyi's government in Kyiv sacrificing everyone else to maintain the notion of a Ukrainian state for the wealthy elite who (coincidentally) live in Kyiv. Look at where the rich are. Look at where most conscripts are from.

Ukraine is split into the ultra wealthy (Kyiv), the moderately well-off (Dnipro, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia, Kharkiv), and everywhere else (which is remarkably poor). Kyiv has more than double the GDP/capita of the next richest administrative region. This war devastates the eastern economic centers and solidifies power in Kyiv... And for what?

Ukrainian nationalism have sent hundreds of thousands of men and women to their death for no clear gains. Now, they want to send hundreds of thousands more, because the lives of Ukrainians mean nothing to the people in the white ivory towers of Kyiv. Is the sacrifice of more Ukrainian lives worth it to pursue the Western ideal of crushing Russia (so that the West can collectively focus on the Middle East and China instead)?

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Ukraine isn't fighting "crush Russia" or "consolidate power," they are fighting to exist as a nation. They are fighting to not be part of Russia, and if you claim Russia doesn't consolidate wealth into a small few while sacrificing their poor as cannon fodder, you're unabashedly lying.

Now, do Western nations take advantage of this to severely weaken with no personal loss of life or territory? Absolutely. But just because it benefits the West doesn't mean it doesn't also benefit Ukraine.

[-] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago

They are hopped up on nationalism, which is encouraged by the Western warmongers for their own benefit.

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

You’re right they should just let Russia roll in, murder their population and take their land. #Diplomacy

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago

You couldn't come with a dumber comment if you tried.

[-] gun@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago

*Narrator voice*
They didn't finish the job

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Russia is resorting conscripting seniors and prisoners and putting them in 50 year old tanks with faulty ammo but do go on 😅

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

We've been reading this shit for two years. At this point we're coping as much propaganda as the Russians are.

Even with 500.000 Russian soldiers dead, their population is 143 million people. I'm quite sure that they still have some spare Blyats lying around.

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