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Moments before a 17-year-old unleashed gunfire at Iowa’s Perry High School, killing a sixth grader and wounding five other people, the student is believed to have posted a foreboding TikTok video.

On the morning shooter Dylan Butler opened fire, a TikTok post believed to be from the shooter shows him the inside a school bathroom posing with a blue duffel bag, captioned: “Now we wait.”

The song “Stray Bullet,” by the German band KMFDM, accompanies the post, which has been removed from the platform; the student gunmen who carried out the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado also had cited the group’s lyrics, CNN has reported.

Butler – who also died amid Thursday’s horror, a law enforcement official told CNN – “made a number of social media posts in and around the time of the shooting,” said Mitch Mortvedt, assistant director of the Iowa Department of Public Safety Division of Criminal Investigation. “Law enforcement are working to secure those pieces of evidence,” he added.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Terrific. Now we have people with dreams of being 'influencers' gaining notoriety by attempting mass murder.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

...now?

Homie that's been the problem for like a decade.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There was an attempt at a mass shooting at a high school near me by a girl hoping to be the first female school shooter. Luckily her friend called her parents who found the gun and ammo in her closet or stray bullets would have hit the front of my house.

I'm glad your door is safe.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Eww you might’ve got child blood on your property, lowering its value.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Have we had a mass shooter release a message online like this moments before shooting before? I honestly don't know.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Christchurch NZ was live streaming

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are absolutely right. I totally forgot about that.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Killers love their manifestos.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago

Posting ominous stuff on social media before committing a mass shooting has been happening for decades. This is nothing new.

I could see this on a Season 2 of Squid Game.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“It doesn’t feel real,” student Rachael Kares told CNN. “This is like one of those things where you see on TV and you’re like that never gonna linger its way toward my community, but it does happen. It’s really real.”

And it will continue happening again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again because the US has zero interest in actually addressing the problem.

We all know these will continue until the second amendment is repealed and guns are banned. No, it won’t ever happen. Most places won’t even bother to do basic gun control. So it will continue, and we will pretend to be shocked every time.

[–] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Of course someone who thinks that shooting up a school is a good idea completely misses the messages that KMFDM espouse. Sure, all industrial music has a sorta implied violence cos of the nature of the music (which I guess you could say about metal in general. Not power metal though. I defy anyone to listen to that genre and not say "wow, this music is uplifting and inspiring"), but if you listen to the lyrics...

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The song “Stray Bullet,” by the German band KMFDM, accompanies the post, which has been removed from the platform; the student gunmen who carried out the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado also had cited the group’s lyrics, CNN has reported.

Oh we're back to "~~Metallica~~ KMFDM made me do it" huh? We should have told Tipper Gore and the PMRC to fuck off when she came for Jello Biafra and H. R. Giger back in the '80s

[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought they were implying that he was a copycat, not that music made him do it.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're all technically copycats, it isn't exactly an original or fresh idea anymore, but if the only similarity between columbine and this guy is they both listen to KMFDM that isn't enough to say he was copying specifically Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold imo, even if Harris was wearing a KMFDM hat. Their focus being on "KMFDM made me do it" attempts to give an air of legitimacy to the claim that violent imagery in videogames or music creates violent individuals, whether they intend that as the outcome of their article or not.

[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At no stage do they say in the article that KMFDM made him do it. The link to columbine and that band is not the focus of the article, it is only mentioned very briefly. It is mentioned because columbine copycats are common and people like to have information about the motivation of these killers. I see no attempt to legitimise any theory about what causes violent behaviour other than linking it to bullying.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Moments before a 17-year-old unleashed gunfire at Iowa’s Perry High School, killing a sixth grader and wounding five other people, the student is believed to have posted a foreboding TikTok video.

On the morning shooter Dylan Butler opened fire, a TikTok post believed to be from the shooter shows him the inside a school bathroom posing with a blue duffel bag, captioned: “Now we wait.”

The song “Stray Bullet,” by the German band KMFDM, accompanies the post, which has been removed from the platform; the student gunmen who carried out the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado also had cited the group’s lyrics, CNN has reported.

Butler – who also died amid Thursday’s horror, a law enforcement official told CNN – “made a number of social media posts in and around the time of the shooting,” said Mitch Mortvedt, assistant director of the Iowa Department of Public Safety Division of Criminal Investigation. “Law enforcement are working to secure those pieces of evidence,” he added.

It's 1/4th of the focus of this post, the fact that he used it on a tik tok is the other 3/4ths, so technically it is 4/4ths. Why include it in the article at all if they don't want to focus on it? Could have posted:

Moments before a 17-year-old unleashed gunfire at Iowa’s Perry High School, killing a sixth grader and wounding five other people, the student is believed to have posted a foreboding TikTok video.

On the morning shooter Dylan Butler opened fire, a TikTok post believed to be from the shooter shows him the inside a school bathroom posing with a blue duffel bag, captioned: “Now we wait.”

Butler – who also died amid Thursday’s horror, a law enforcement official told CNN – “made a number of social media posts in and around the time of the shooting,” said Mitch Mortvedt, assistant director of the Iowa Department of Public Safety Division of Criminal Investigation. “Law enforcement are working to secure those pieces of evidence,” he added.

But they didn't, they chose to push focus towards his "unsavory" music choices.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's a

~~gun control issue~~
~~mental health issue~~
~~security issue~~
industrial metal issue

The goalposts keep moving

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago

Tbf, CNN and Fox are ostensibly different, CNN is one of the major news outlets who constantly supports gun control (while secretly hoping the problem never stops because it would hurt their ratings.) Mental health and security are more Fox's take specifically.

As for "metal musics and violent video games" that seems to be a scapegoat for both sides (and neither), the PMRC was bipartisan, Tipper Gore is literally Al's wife but many other members were conservative christian "Mom's against everything demand everything" types. The christian censors obviously participating because they want to force their god on others and the liberal side because they know what is good for you even if you're too stupid to decide for yourself "because you're an uneducated ~~colored~~ POC or a poor white." This one is specifically both sides, with both sides also saying the censors can complain all they want but they can't do shit about it. More specifically, this issue (Tommy Vercetti made me do it) transcends "sides," opting instead to create its own "sides."

It's also older than our school shooting problem, so "goalposts" have been moved back to their 1980s positions. Get ready, Satanic Panic 2: Beelzebub Boogaloo is on deck next.

[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Hey America!. Still Killin it?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

2020 - S05E05 - TikTok, Bang Bang

Moments before a 17-year-old unleashed gunfire at Iowa’s Perry High School, killing a sixth grader and wounding five other people, the student is believed to have posted a foreboding TikTok video. On the morning shooter Dylan Butler opened fire, a TikTok post believed to be from the shooter shows him the inside a school bathroom posing with a blue duffel bag, captioned: “Now we wait.” The song “Stray Bullet,” by the German band KMFDM, accompanies the post, which has been removed from the platform; the student gunmen who carried out the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado also had cited the group’s lyrics. Butler – who also died amid Thursday’s horror, made a number of social media posts in and around the time of the shooting.” - TV-MA, 57 mins

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