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It's odd to see Americans siding with Russia, to be honest.

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] FrogCat@piefed.social 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Apparently he has citizenship of the USA and Canada as well as South Africa:

According to Isaacson’s biography and an Esquire magazine profile of Musk, he became a US citizen in 2002

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

By the logic of the regime he supports, that US citizenship should be revoked, and he should be deported, because he illegally immigrated to the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/oct/26/elon-musk-illegal-immigration

https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-illegal-immigrant-abused-162201531.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/10/26/elon-musk-powerful-critic-of-illegal-immigrants-worked-illegally-in-us-at-start-of-career-report-says/

If Trump and Elon and MAGA don't need to abide by US immigration law, I can also just say fuck no, no he is not a US Citizen, by their own logic.

Eitherway, he definitely wasn't born in the US.

Deported to some country he's never been to nor a citizen of by the standards of this admin.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

his (former stepsister)mother/father moved to canada, because they were mad apartheid was ending in South africa.

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[–] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someone should tell the government that.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They'd just let him in anyway, since white South Africans are the only immigrants that this admin tolerates

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 56 points 1 week ago (6 children)

America (the government) is siding with Russia. Americans are not.

[–] Patrin@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We will see at the midterms.

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[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 24 points 1 week ago

Then they need to stop their government.

Until then, it’s Americans, because they collectively are responsible for their government.

Now, I guess I’ll take excuses again.

[–] blackberry28@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump still has an approval rating of 30%. And those mfs are in favor of everything Trump does, including siding with Russia.

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

30% does not make a country.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

It does make a big chunk of a country. A few rotten apples spoils the whole bunch, as the saying goes.

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago

If the best the other 70% can do is throw dildos at nazis, then yes it does.

[–] BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

30% don’t give a fuck and/or are easily manipulated into not voting so it doesn’t really matter. The world has long given up hope on America righting the ship until you all prove otherwise. It’s been a decade of y’all pushing the line back. Can’t imagine you are one country in 50 years.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 6 points 1 week ago

Well apparently they fucking do and that's the problem from the start. There's no use in denying it afterwards.

The minority 30% who are also idiots does indeed make the entire country. They chose the president, the house, the courts and allow every single law to be broken without consequences while randomly killing random people. That is USA as it is made by the 30% right fucking now.

In what way exactly do you mean that they do not make the country? What high road are you on where you can pretend that there is anything more to it than what it is right now?

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[–] Krompus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Musk made the call to limit their connection.

Who the fuck voted for him?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's the CEO of the company that owns the sats. Unfortunately he can do that if he wants. I'm glad it happened. Yet more fuel for the fire to get away from American tech. We will never recover our world leadership, America's done.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (9 children)
[–] Krompus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago
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[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

That changes nothing

[–] Frozentea725@feddit.uk 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's all the same to us. Why are you not in the streets. America's reputation will be tarnished for a generation. Why would anyone trust you when your just 4 years away from this shitshow

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago

Shows how much you know. Many of us, including myself, have been in the streets.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good way for Musk to make sure there'll be a lot more competition in that sector at a rapid pace.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Other countries are accelerating plans. While I'm glad the world is ditching our tech, we need a kick in the teeth, I hate to see several competing constellations up there.

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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And he won't be considered in bids.

[–] oppy1984 9 points 1 week ago

And he'll get pissy about it and try to sue them.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If I've learned anything, it's how incredibly adaptable Ukrainians are.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's insane that obscene wealth has made him an American potentate, with great influence over not only our domestic policy, but foreign as well.

Not because Elon is strong, but because America is weak.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Between him being given massive government contracts and Melania being the first lady, I don't think America really has a problem with illegal immigrants. Just the poor illegal immigrants.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Nah, America loves poor illegal immigrants, too. They're super exploitable what with the constant fear of deportation. They're just not allowed to feel like equals.

[–] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 27 points 1 week ago

The fascist right sure are distilling a super capable super advanced foe for themselves without meaning to. I look forward to the day they find out Ukraine trained the modern allies to kick their asses in the next world war.

[–] Freeposity@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Politics is a weird way to spell super-villian.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Recent reporting indicated Musk unilaterally made the decision to limit Starlink in Ukraine

Starlink should be nationalized. It's too much power for a private citizen who has shown a propensity for abuse

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[–] bashibazouk@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I wonder if this is Putin directly threatening Musk with the destruction of Starlink. Starlink is SpaceX's only profitable business. It brings in over 60% of the companies revenue. Though if Russia initiated or accelerated the Kessler syndrome, everyone would be pissed so probably a bluff...

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m not sure that it would be practical to take out starlink. They’re small satellites in an enormously large space. I guess we don’t know what we don’t know about space weaponry.

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[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its far easier and more likely that Putin has compromat on Elon and is just telling him what to do. Its the most likely reason Trump and Elon are in lock step over the Ukrainian Starlink problems. Putin is really pressured over the recent increased range of Ukrainian attacks and wants it to stop so will risk his prime assets.

Even trump isn't dumb enough to think the pitiful amount of fuel he buying from Putin will impact fuel prices in the US, but it does give Putin some signifcant short term funds for laundering Iranian oil.

[–] ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Iran is making out gangbusters from this whole shebang. Tolls on shipping, more cash from the US via Russian drone orders. It's almost like Trump & co. are imbeciles.

[–] Stormy@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 week ago

Or Iike Trump Iran and putin are working this all together

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

why is it odd? Putin is Trump's handler.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

As soon as they start making material progress, Elon yanks the rug on them.

You really gotta wonder who is running this shit show.

[–] newton@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

With musk and a idiot POTUS. ? , where have you lived the last 2 years

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