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Autotranslation of the banned verses:

Outraged, your children, at the yoke imposed upon you by Iberian audacity, at the unjust and horrendous misfortune that weighed fatally upon you, raised a sacred voice to the heavens, a voice of noble and unparalleled oath, to avenge you against the bloody monster, to break that servile yoke.

Nothing on earth was invincible to the iron arms of these heroes, and from the valley to the highest mountain range, the din of battle was heard; after the battle, victory soared, freedom followed the triumph, and the shattered lion was heard roaring with impotence and spite.

At last, Spanish ferocity yielded, and today, oh Fatherland, your free existence is the noble and magnificent inheritance that happy heroism gave us; From our fathers' hands we received it, let no one try to wrest it from us now, nor let anyone, foolish or audacious, try to stir up our vengeful wrath against themselves.

Let no one, oh Fatherland, attempt it. The shades of your glorious heroes look upon us, and the valor and pride they inspire are omens of triumphs for you. Let the iron and the lightning-fast lead come, for at the thought of war and vengeance the heroic strength awakens that made the fierce Spaniard succumb.

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[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

meanwhile American genocide day is a celebration holiday

For some. For others it’s Indigenous People Day.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

I saw this on my calendar, pretty cool that it has some recognition

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] deafboy@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, I hope it sounds better in original, because the translation sounds like it was written by a salty 12 years old edgelord. Pure cringe.

[–] OmegaSunkey@ani.social 1 points 1 day ago

Of course you say that, not being at the time of one of the First Revolutions against the Spanish Empire.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I mean, I get why you wouldn't necessarily want to constantly remind people of past wars. It's a matter of pragmatism really. The guys you murdered yesterday may help you to murder someone else tomorrow. Or maybe we eventually stop doing so entirely, not constantly reminding people of past enemies might help either way.

I think the Anthem of Europe ('Ode to Joy') is really what a hymn should be. It's not about the past at all, it's about the future and ideals. The German Anthem is kind of nice too (even the part the Nazis generously reinterpreted in their favour, thus banned/omitted today). It's also about things to strive for, not triumph or wars. Would be really weird to sign about getting murdered by the French, liberating from the French, murdering the French, or murdering the French again, when I never even had a fistfight with a Frenchmen.

That's not to say I don't care about the past, but particularly the relationship between France and Germany goes to show what happens when you don't leave things in the past, and what is possible when you do.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Deutschland Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt

May he sedition hush,
and like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scots to crush!
God save the King!

etc etc

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit. The Germans abolished Deutschland Deutschland über alles after WW2.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's two further examples of lines from national anthems that are not sung today.

(and I'm not sure from your comment if you knew, but both the Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit, and Deutschland Deutschland über alles are lines from the same song - the Deutschlandlied)

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And they don't use the latter anymore. Love from Germany.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Du hast etwas falsch verstanden.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

american genocide day is a celebration holiday

Bear River, Sand Creek, and Wounded Knee don't have celebratory holidays.

You probably mean either Thanksgiving or Columbus Day, right?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He means Columbus Day. Thats what he's referencing.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Where does OP reference that?

Btw, I was also thinking that Independence Day might also be a candidate, in which the Declaration of Independence explicitly states that "all men are created equal," whilst also in the very same document, declaring Native Americans as "savages."

(nevermind women and slaves, of course)

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Can be inferred because that's what day it was, it's on the 12th

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I'll bet that's a super catchy tune.