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[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 41 points 11 months ago

Is Graphene OS good? Any downsides? I need to get a new phone soon.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

I switched to it a year ago and I like it. The biggest draw for me is it gives me back control and ownership over my phone. It gives you actual and thorough control over what apps can do on your phone including Google's apps, which on other typical Android OS are being given all or most permissions with no ability for you to deny access to any of them.

To gain almost all the functionality of a regular Android OS you can install Google Play Services and run it sandboxed, which means it will only do what you allow it to do and access only what you will allow it to access, which for me is the bare minimum before things stop working too much for my tastes.

Besides Android auto for now, the only thing that won't work for me on it is my banking app, probably because of all the security checks involved in it. But I just use the browser-based online service to do my banking operations instead.

[-] keefshape@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago

I got my banking app working by going into App Info for it, and toggling this to on.

[-] Salix@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

This is also what I use to get 3 banking apps working

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Banking apps can usually be defeated by Magisk in Zygist mode, then you use the deny list to hide things from the app. Some might check with Google for security, which is much more difficult and maybe even impossible to circumvent, but in my experience these days they work fine.

[-] Salix@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Don't you need to root to use Magisk? You can't root in GrapheneOS

[-] jvrava9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

You can tho its not advised

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[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I never managed to get MS "company portal" to successfully create a work profile. I had to give up in the end.

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[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 11 months ago

I think it's great, and have been daily driving it for I think almost 3 years now. With the addition of sandboxed Google Play services, there's little it can't handle.

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm running it. Bank apps and Safety net things (like Pokemon Go) all work. Aside from Android Auto, Google Pay refuses to work.

So, there's no downsides.

Actually, Google Translate didn't play ball when I tried it. I miss that one.

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 5 points 11 months ago

I really like Android Auto so I'll probably wait until they at least get that working to change. I wonder if Samsung Pay works on there...

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[-] pricklypearbear@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

From my experience, its overall good. Its basically stock android, meaning no google smart features and apps by default, with more control over apps and google services. But for caution, some apps may break. You will have to mess around with the app settings to fix them. Also some apps will not work such as the google wallet app due to the OS not being acknowledged as official by google.

In short, its a more security focused OS that may require more involvement in configuration.

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[-] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Upsides: Everything just works, no google tracking, creating a google account is optional and its easy to setup

Downsides: You aren't able to automatically backup the internal storage of apps without a lot of work (external files such as photos and documents are fine though)

I've been using it for about 1.5 years, I would recommend using it if possible

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

Doesn't it only support Pixel phones?

[-] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, if you want an alternative that supports more phones, look into Calyx OS

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[-] Contort3860@links.hackliberty.org 5 points 11 months ago

Get a Pixel and give it a shot. If it doesn't work for you the Pixels have amazing support in the custom ROM community so you'll be able to find something you like for sure.

[-] ripley@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I just moved from a Samsung - migration was a lot of manual work for me. Whether it's worth it depends on how much the increased security and control are worth to you. They were to me - I haven't had any issues otherwise.

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

i, for one, only have good things to say about it, EXCEPT device support (which is not GOS's fault)

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[-] ninjakitty7@kbin.social 33 points 11 months ago

I was hoping from the title that this meant that Graphene could run on the car. They’re still a huge privacy concern.

[-] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 22 points 11 months ago

GrapheneOS requires specific safety hardware that, as of now, is usually available only on the Google Pixel line of phones. If your standard smartphone doesn't include it, I doubt a car does.

[-] jemikwa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 11 months ago

Android Auto is a specific system that mirrors app contents from your phone. It's basically an extended monitor for your phone with specific formatting to be car usage friendly. It doesn't do anything about a car's embedded systems

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[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I'm a Luddite for sure, but I'd be uncomfortable with my car having access to data about how I interact with my phone. I use Lineage and not Graphene, but I don't think I'd use Android Auto if it was available for Lineage. (Or maybe it is. Not sure. But I wouldn't use it regardless.)

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

the solution is to yank out the stock infotainment system and put in a new one that doesn't suck. that and cracking down on automakers who play dirty

[-] Osiris@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Is there one that doesn't suck and isn't auto/carplay?

[-] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Also for people thinking that this will block the functions that your existing one has integrated with the vehicle, you can get something like iDatalink Maestro to translate things. As long as it's compatible with your car and the head unit is compatible with the Maestro then you can access existing functions.

[-] monty33@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago

Wow this is incredible, and I will be making the switch! This was the only unavailable feature that I couldn't go without.

[-] ProfessorYakkington@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Same. I used graphene and calyx for a while but really needed the nav features so stoped using them. Very excited for this!!

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[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I'm more interested in that Nitro Phone 4, tbh. Not in buying it, as I'd just flash it myself, but it's an interesting product. They also include options for removing sensors, microphones and cameras, which seems kind of cool and crazy - without the microphones how do you make calls?!

[-] pricklypearbear@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

You either connect a mic via Bluetooth or wired headset.

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[-] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 3 points 11 months ago

Either you plug a wired microphone each time you receive a call, or you explicitly do not receive calls with the device and use it as a tablet basically.

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[-] ScaNtuRd@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, don't ever connect your phone to your car. It has been proven that they steal all your data.

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