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Who talked these dumb shit boomer MP's into installing back doors in everything?
How could they possibly think this won't cause problems?
Gary Anandasangaree is the billβs proponent.
Money
Aren't most of our MPs GenX and millenials at this point.
It's not an age/culture war. It's a wealth-class war.
Millennials grew up with the internet, it's the boomers that are the problem.
Millennials are fully capable of being dipshits and or bought
So is anyone, even gen z by that logic, so I don't get your point.
Bulk generalization is a stupid lazy way of pointing fingers without addressing actual problems
And tools that people use to protect themselves.
It will also expose Canadians to a higher surface area of data breaches. Which in turn will mean Canadians will most likely be exposed to more scams and fraud.
What's moronic about this is that it won't stop criminals. They'll just move over to a different platform that is more secure.
But everyday Canadians' privacy will pay the price because backdoors now exist for bad actors (both law enforcement nutjobs and criminals) to use against us
Carney was probably given a secret option to either enslave Canadians himself or let the Trump admin do it...
THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT IS A PUPPET TO CORPORATE INTERESTS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN
Wages are depressed by a litany of loopholes provided to businesses. ISPs and cell providers are allowed to run effective monopolies in order to gouge Canadians. Grocery stores are allowed to conspire together to raise prices. Hosing prices are kept high by corporate landlords. Electrification is being delayed and fucking BILLIONS are being spend subsidizing oil and gas.
This is just another example of Canada saying "Yes, we will fuck Canadian citizens for as long and hard corporations tell us." And the best part is, both of our two and a half parties are onboard with this.
If you need a VPN, use Mullvad: https://mullvad.net/en They are not the cheapest but they are the most privacy focused provider I have found.
I don't understand how signal can "pull out" of Canada.
Pull their app from in Canada, block connections to their servers from IPs owned by Canadian ISPs.
I should clarify. Like if it's on their website to download freely, why is it on them to police it? If thr gov is going to do something stupid like that, people can still download it.
Signal is a centralized platform, even with the software rely on Signal's servers to make connections. Blocking access to Canadians is easier than fighting a legal battle with a federal government for facilitating encrypted communications with no backdoor.
I'm saying they don't have to block anything. "Hi I'm signal and I exist over here". They aren't enabling Canadians but just having servers on the internet.
Buddy, the service they provide is end to end encrypted messaging with no backdoor. If Canada makes that illegal, via c-22, then Signal will be operating an illegal service in Canada. They will block access to Canadian usesers to protect themselves from legal attack from the Canadian government.
I just don't think it's so black and white. So I connect to a VPN that goes to... I dunno, Africa. Then I use signal. It's still E2EE. And I'm still in Canada.
I can explain this a dozen more times but I can not understand it for you.
If C-22 becomes law Signal will stop serving Canadian users. You can use a VPN to access Signal but that is a direct action taken by you to bypass a regional block. If VPN providers also stop serving Canadian users, because that would violate a Canadian ban on encryption, how are you going to access Signal? If the Canadian government gives ISPs permission to block VPN providers operating outside of Canada how will you access Signal?
This isn't a problem that gets fixed by sideloading an app onto your phone, this is a problem with Canadian law and Canadian politicians jerking off corporations.
I understand that signal will stop, my point is why bother putting in preventative measures.
Say there's a law that says it's illegal for Canadians to go to the united states. Say the united states has no border. Should the united states enforce border security because the Canadian government said so?
Listen, I understand what is happening and I'm not in any way supporting it, I just think it's odd that signal has to pull out instead of the Canadian government blocking it. You know what I mean yet?
If you have a weed vending business here in Canada, and you sell weed online to the USA, do you think that Canada would not sell you out in a second to the US? Many countries around the world are just as happy to throw someone under the bus at the request of a foreign government, particularly if it is furthering the erosion of personal encryption.
And I do agree that the Canadian government should be on the hook to enforce their own laws but it's way easier for them to put the screws to individuals and force compliance or voluntarily withdraw of access.
Are there any Canadians on the signal dev team, have any Canadians contributed a bug fix to the project, are there Canadians working for Signal in any other capacity? Those people could be subject to legal pressure by Canada due to their involvement with a project that is willing to bypass Canadian law. Pulling access is the easiest way to project the project whether is it the morally correct solution or not.
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