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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/71474217

Unlike transit systems in other world-class cities that receive significant government funding, Bart has generated 60%-70% of its operating revenue through passenger fares, making it uniquely self-sustaining – and uniquely exposed to the low ridership during the pandemic and the Bay Area’s nation-leading shift to remote and hybrid work.

Witness the Bay Area consume itself with manufactured crisises that are products of the blindspots in the Bay Area mentality believing it is unquestionably the future. Witness what a future of Gavin Newsom types controlling things leads to.

Are you really going to keep the title as one of the great tech centers of the world without even a functioning mass transit system?

I share this in "collapse of the old society" because I think this crisis captures the collapse going on in US culture so perfectly, the idea that the Bay Area cannot afford to invest in mass transit is an absurd contortion of the reality that the Bay Area must invest in mass transit to grow and sustain itself.

In a sick collapsing society the choice for survival has become "rationalized" as the impossible choice that must be passed over in favor of austerity and ideologically driven decay and collapse.

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[–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago
[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Imagine if drivers had to pay their fair share for roads.

Free market capitalism is expressly reserved for industries capitalism wants to destroy.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In theory this does happen from land, income, and sales taxes. Also through vehicle registration and gas taxes.

But I agree with your sentiment, the average driver likely pays far less for daily access than the average train rider.

[–] WaxRhetorical@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The point being that everyone pays (the same amount) for the roads, whether you personally use them or not, but the people who use public transport pay extra to do so.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Well, we can't tax the Job Creators now can we? CAPITALISM, praise Jesus.

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bart is also a feat of engineering. Its underwater tunnel, known as the transbay tube, sits 135ft (41 meters) beneath the chilly waters of the San Francisco Bay. It was designed with flexible joints to absorb the seismic activity of the region’s two active faultlines, and emerged from the 1989 earthquake unscathed.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It looks like you pasted the same text twice in your comment.

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

Oops fixed thanks.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

there has been scaling back some of transportation rather than expanding it. i dont see it getting better, theres already low ridership compared to people driving cars, that are actually paying the fare.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Why would they need mass transit? That is for the poors.

Sf will be a utopian tech dream once they build all the service bots and can then finally be free of the shackles that bind them to dirty not-rich people.

New robots to make the food and coffee, clean up, drive them home after they drink expensive liquor, fix the broken stuff, etc.

Soon all of the rich douchebags can just descend on the city and it will be all for them!

Then maybe we can drop a fat bomb on it.

SFO is bullshit, I hope it burns. I don't think I've been to a more unlikable city. Assy people, shitty weather, impossible traffic, overpriced everything, piss-soaked sidewalks, crimey, just wtf. How is there so much money and "brilliance" here and its such a shithole? The only good thing about it is that I don't have to go there anymore for work.