how about we have primaries and find out this time
this post was submitted on 24 Sep 2026
-33 points (14.9% liked)
politics
31206 readers
2205 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles. Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to US politics and contain quality and original content. Social Media adjacent hosts like Substack are allowed, but ONLY if they tie back to a company/subsidiary. No personal or friend group blogs and no self-promotion. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and re-hosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing other users of being bots or paid actors.
- No memes, trolling, misinformation, or low-effort posts/comments (including reposts). If you see posts like this that anger you, do not engage. Report, block, and live a happier life than they do. Any slap-fight is subject to comment removals. Fights full of rule violations will result in temporary bans to cool off.
- No manipulating votes via bots or alt accounts; this will result in permanent bans. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in an account ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be permanently banned.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules and use critical thinking when reading, posting, and commenting. Users that repeatedly have comments or posts removed, weaponize reports, or violate the code of conduct, will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users. The reason(s) behind moderator action(s) are publicly available through the Modlog.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
Let me tell you a tale of old man Sanders and how a certain party rigs those primaries to fuck him over.
Hillary got more votes than Bernie did. I like Bernie too, but he just wasn't popular enough. Specifically with Black voters in the South, which is the base of the Democratic Party.
I'm old enough to remember those primaries. Every news channel was talking 24/7 how Hilary has the primaries in the bag because all the superdelegates already pledged to vote for her. For months Bernie was getting more votes in every election but the media was saying that Hilary is winning. So yes, Hilary was more popular. She was more popular because party leadership supported her from day 1 and media kept telling everyone she's more popular.
The race was decided long before primaries were over. At that point people likely didn't even come out to vote for Bernie
Speaking of people not voting for Bernie - he's very popular with independents, who would have been unable to vote for him in a closed primary if they weren't registered as Democrats.
We had primaries and it gave us Joe fucking Biden.
Yeah but what, are we going to say "to hell with democratic representation, people just have bad taste in presidents!"
Ok, and he beat Trump? Not sure what your point is here.
... really? You're really not sure? Sure, he best Trump...in 2020. In 2024 he was doing so badly that he had to be replaced before the election even began. You don't remember this?
I'm starting to think the DNC is actually trying to lose.
No thank you
Okay, Trump it is then. I seriously don't think there is another popular choice and US democracy is like WWE showdown.
She's free to run, doubt she makes it very far in the primaries.
Last time she tried running in a primary, she was the first(?) to drop out, due a total lack of support.
Correct. 2020 primary and she dropped out polling in 5th place in her home state, California.
I will grant that it's possible that 4 years as VP and a Presidential campaign, she might be a better candidate than back then. But I'd like to see her prove it in a Primary.
But, that Primary may very well end up being engineered for Gavin to win, like all the rest of the Democratic Primaries have been engineered for the Next One Up recently.
Is it bad that I'm hoping some rightwing nut job puts a bullet into newsom, or he otherwise dies. Frankly I just don't want him around and death is the only way to ensure that.
Unequivocally, NO.
Wonder if the other potential neoliberal candidates will copy her strategy and come out and support a progressive candidate.
Has she worked on her laugh?
Can't even stand her voice. Like nails on a chalkboard.
Well, I'm onboard. This time, it'll work!
I don't know anything about how qualified she is, but how she talks to people or tells a story is worse than RFK Jr's voice on helium. No thanks!
It's like she's telling a story to kindergarteners with an imaginary picture book, sounding like she's trying to make it sound special.
FYI, I did not vote for Trump, either.
Her voice is the least relevant thing when considering her for president.
Yeah well, the way she talks makes her sounds less competent. it's just so annoying the way she sounds.
yeah I'm with you on that one. She is unable to frame good answers to questions.
You didn’t even vote, so you’ve little to say on the subject.
I think you're just sore that by voting you explicitely supported a genocide. And I did vote-- I filled out a ballot and turned it in. I just didnt pick one of the choices you personally labeled as "voting". Like it or not, voters can choose to vote third party or just leave the entry blank-- or they can even stay home on the couch. Until you zionism-bribed centrists realize that aspect of how voting even works, you'll continue to not understand how to win elections.
You lot are so hopeless. Centrists are a cancer on the democratic party, and as dangerous to our shared future as republicans are.. By standing in a mythical center you stand nowhere and for nothing.
“yOu sUpPorT tEH GiNnY CiDe!”
For the record, I don’t recall telling you where I stand at all. But since you clearly make assumptions based on zero information, I can see your not someone to ever take seriously.
I'm slowly starting to understand how US got Trump. You're disregarding amongst the most popular opposition because.. her voice sounds weird to you? Yeah, Trump is here to stay
Dude, I didn't vote for Trump lmao. I just can't fucking stand how horrible she sounds when she talks and how she talks. She doesn't seem competent or qualified, let alone able to talk to regular folks or carry a debate with another politician.
If Dems are going to take any actual action (they fucking won't) then it needs to be someone with enough sense, ability, confidence, and critical thinking skills to fight to win!
If you haven't picked up on it so far, the billionaires own both parties. They keep the poors divided and preoccupied thinking each other has a chance while they fuck us all the same! The way the Democratic party keeps fumbling each attempt is obvious they also don't care, because they're funded by the rich.
The only real thing occurring is the back and forth with policies feeling like progression happens, only to back slide a few years later. 800 billionaires in the US. The top 1%own 90%of the stocks, so when the "economy its good" it's only good for them. We have 401K's to ensure THEIR money-and therefore, power- keeps growing.
I just can't fucking stand how horrible she sounds when she talks and how she talks
When you say stuff like this, you gotta think relatively about what other popular options are there. Popularity is VERY important, and Kamala has it.
She doesn't seem competent or qualified, let alone able to talk to regular folks or carry a debate with another politician.
Again, relatively. Would she be an upgrade from current regime? No? Then vote Trump, because you know elections are mostly between 2 most popular people.
critical thinking skills to fight to win!
That's not how US works. If you as a candidate show intelligence, majority will think you are stupid.