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cross-posted from: https://scribe.disroot.org/post/11255432

  • 73% of EU citizens now believe that Europe should act more independently of the United States in the future. In 2024, this figure stood at 63 per cent.

  • At the same time, the study shows that the growing distance from the US is not reflected in a closer relationship with China. China continues to be viewed with widespread scepticism. 77% are in favour of reducing economic and political dependencies – even if this could entail economic disadvantages.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Sorry, but 100% of the Oligarchs disagree.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The EU hasn’t got a choice. The US is no longer an ally.

[–] tardigrade@scribe.disroot.org 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As an addition: I find it weird that so many comments here in this thread are - once again - bashing the U.S. and Russia, but are completely ignoring the fact that China is as unpopular. Some misled propaganda parrots are even criticizing the EU for being critical of China. That's almost hilarious.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's not surprising at all. China is a known quantity, it's old news that they are an adversary. The US is a situation that has fully developed over the second Trump term. The rest of the world thought Trump 1 was aberration, Trump 2 is a confirmation of the path the US is heading down and we're also way more integrated with the US in terms of military and tech and that's a situation that obviously needs to change. If you want an example of why, look at the ICC judges that were debanked and blocked from accessing their emails accounts, etc. That's the leverage the US is willing to exploit and you would be a fool to leave yourself in that position. And the US being the sole provider of AI to the west.... Oh boy...

[–] tardigrade@scribe.disroot.org 4 points 4 days ago

I agree with your view. It's certainly a reason why so many 'only' condemn the U.S., but some of the commenters are apparently Chinese propaganda parrots (but, yes, they also exploit this leverage you are talking about if I get you right).

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe bias of proximity? USA's influence is in most places in the west -from where +90% of lemmy-users (lewe?) probably come- is pretty palpable, even grotesque while China's influence appear to he more scattered and subtle.

[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Yea, I came here from lemmy.ca, a Canadian page.

Russia and China are evil, but it's the USA which is trying to annex us.

[–] czl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

27% of people living in an alternate reality. Even if the next guy in the US is sane again, it’s impossible to predict when or why they’ll elect the next mental case.

We need not be beholden to the whims of the US voter. Yes we can ally on specific matters, but strategic a important areas need to be safeguarded from 1 partner (be it the US, China, or anyone else) flipping on a dime.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 4 days ago

It could be that a percentage of those just don't want a ban on cheap, but still good, solar panels from China or Something?

The EU tends to make rules that only harm the working class when "divesting" from foreign markets while not bringing any of the manufacturing or replacement products into EU production and not incentivizing such. See: electric cars, electronic components, textile production, etc...

[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

I am asking the world to turn its back on America. I say this as an American citizen.

If they mistreat me this badly, one of their own, just think of how they'll betray you.