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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

We killed the project because our corrupt politicians gave in to American demands.

Don’t let Canada become the next pre-ww2 Denmark. Let the soldiers be able to fight back with gripen.

We must oppose fascists not surrender to their horrible fantasies.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 12 points 6 hours ago

As much as I love the Arrow, I think there's a case for the cancellation - the tide was starting to turn against dedicated interceptors, as the article notes.

But there's no excuse at all for the absolute gutting of the domestic industry that followed.

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Two things:

  1. Fuck Diefenbaker. The Arrow was beautiful and he killed it to capitulate to America bullshittery.

  2. This is the most surprising thing I've ever read in The Walrus:

(Not to be confused with the Black Friday corporate retail fuck fest where we convince ourselves in the States that we need another 70-inch LCD TV.)

[–] codydodd@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Also ironically interceptors like the Avro are back baby. The argument was they became useless in the new ICBM reality. But they never really did. They served roles in airforces since, and now Ukraine wants more interceptors than anything else because there isnt any dog fighting or offensive bombing runs happening via jet. US jets getting downed over Iran further nailed that stake into the coffin. Meanwhile interceptors deliver counter missiles and fast, and can be used for delivery of long range munitions. Not needing specialized hangers like F35s is a huge plus.

Jets like the F35 will not survive the shift to modern warfare like the battleship didnt survive the transition into the last era.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago

How did we ever allow Black Friday sales into Canada? That’s what Boxing Day is for!

Just another example of Canadian culture and commerce being steamrolled by the US.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

All of that said, we got our revenge for the Arrow by replacing all the Boeing executives with McConnell Douglas executives who screwed up the entire corporation.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Boeing and Lockheed Martin are such trashy companies.