People love to squabble about the specifics. Whether or not people should have applied early for citizenship/visas, democratic mechanisms, about who is to blame, who deserves what and such, if we should focus on other groups of immigrants &co. I think most people here in the comments are overlooking the deeply disgusting and hurtful nature of nationalism. How about we say that is not in our interest? No matter if it's nationalism in the case of Brexit or Swedes cracking down on immigration.
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In an ideal world, there are no states and no borders.
But in the world we live in, this is sadly not the case and we must stick to the rules that the people have agreed to. The rules in this case are, the people of Britain have voted to leave the EU and all its benefits, so these new rules must be followed.
But in the world we live in, this is sadly not the case and we must stick to the rules that the people have agreed to.
Who says we must? F the rules, it's not like it's in the interest of those who actually make the world go round. Immigrants for example.
The rules in this case are, the people of Britain have voted to leave the EU and all its benefits, so these new rules must be followed.
There was a poll about the death penalty some time ago in an EU country. The majority of those polled were in favour of the death penalty. Does the death penalty prevent murders? No it doesn't. It's just another terrorist tool that the populace OKs to have used upon itself in certain cases.
Your logic is exactly the same of following orders and denouncing undesirables. It is no better than what UKIP and Sweden Democrats base their decision making on, in fact it boils down to the same thing. It's nationalism.
Tariffs on flatpack furniture now!
More expensive furniture for the UK? In whose interest is that? Certainly not in the interest of the UK citizens…
The yanks are doing it across their economy and look how much they are winning.
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How many of these are people that did not send in an application in time for the deadline and how many actually got rejected after sending in the application on time?
Anyone that has stayed abroad knows that you do not fuck around with the deadlines.
To be fair, the Swedish government fucked around and didn't work out what the application process would be until months after everyone else in Europe, and finally passed the law in late 2020, when most people had more important things to worry about (i.e. Covid.)
In any event, the Withdrawal Agreement says "anyone who was resident before Brexit automatically retains all^* the rights they had", and in principle if anyone ever questions those rights all you need to do is prove you were resident before the deadline. Many countries just left it at that - no registration process at all - but some countries (including the one I live in, thankfully not Sweden) did introduce registration processes as well because having a piece of paper or card saying "we recognise they were here before" just makes that "prove it" easier. But it is NOT required by the WA.
But that does not change the fact that if Sweden is deporting people who can prove they are beneficiaries of the withdrawal agreement (i.e. were resident before Brexit), just because they didn't do some paperwork, then Sweden is not honouring the agreement.
Which is a dick move, whatever you think of Brexit.
It's also worth noting that the vast majority of beneficiaries of the agreement are not British - it's the EU citizens who are permitted to live in the UK permanently on exactly the same basis. I'll wager dollars to donuts there are a lot more Swedes resident in the UK than vice-versa, and guarantee a lot more EU citizens generally in the UK than vice-versa, and all Sweden is doing is giving a future UK government all the reason it needs to start breaking the agreement itself and start deporting. Just so a far-right government in Sweden can be seen to be tough on immigrants. Dick, dick move.
^*: Not quite 'all' - exceptions for rights that couldn't be retained for constitutional reasons; for example I lost the right to buy land or bote because changing that would have required a constitutional amemdment/referendum, which is obviously impractical.
Read a bit more about it, and it seems that Sweden has deported significantly more than the average of the rest of the EU. Definitely seems like an intentional hardline approach.
Indeed. And they're picking on the softest target they know - this thread is ample proof that nobody will step up to defend the British because Brexit was all our own fault, after all - just to pad the numbers out.
Just so a far-right government in Sweden can be seen to be tough on immigrants. Dick, dick move.
This is the core of it. Sweden Democrats (that was formed by neo-nazis) will welcome anything that makes the deportation numbers go up.
I see the grudges between the kings of Sweden and Britain are still alive and well.
The Guardian has really been trying to blow this story up. It's not that big of a deal when it's people from the middle east getting deported, but when it's Britons?
It sucks for the UK that a majority of those that voted to leave the EU are probably already dead, but that's democracy for you.
It's almost like the Guardian is a UK newsagent based in London.
Its a newspaper. Newsagents are the shops old people visit to buy newspapers.
I mean, that's probably part of the reason why Sweden is an outlier in the number of UK deportations. We got a right-wing government a couple years back, and they obviously want to please their constituents by saying "we deported this many criminals, remember to vote for us again!"
Britons are an easy target to pump those numbers up. There is usually nothing that hinders deportation to the UK, unlike to other countries with more instability/wars/etc.
Dessa ärenden är baserade på myndighetsbeslut och inte av den nuvarande regeringen. Det är också något du mycket väl vet..
lol, can't believe i understood this comment almost perfectly even though i've only learned this language for around half a year
seems like what i'm doing is working :D
Välkommen till Sverige
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In Sweden we have plenty of news about young people with parents from all over the world being deported despite being born here and had their education here and have a good job and are paying back in taxes.
Nobody but die hard nationalist and idiots are supporting this shit around here.
Same story, different place.
A single referendum resulting in 52% to 48% split. Based upon lies repeated by captured media organisations and politicians. Implemented by multiple governments that all gained less than 50% of the popular vote. In a FPTP representative party parliamentary monarchy system. And ratified by an unelected chamber with hereditary members, is hardly what I would call democracy.
It's messed up, not to mention the "first past the post" system you have over there.
But wild to think that up to 1/3rd of the Brexit leave-voters might've died since 2016 according to some estimates. It really feels like a big middle finger as they descended into the dirt.
I do feel the need to point out that we had a referendum. Everything else applies to everything the government does, but Brexit was technically one of the most democratic decisions the UK has made, actually giving people a vote instead of having someone choose on their behalf.
A referendum on a hypothetical "should" with no terms or conditions agreed. "Soft" Brexit? "Hard" Brexit? Something in the middle? Good Friday agreement? None of that was hashed out.
If there were a second referendum after negotiations, saying "based upon the terms agreed with the EU should the UK leave the EU?" then perhaps I may agree.
But without that there's bugger all democratic about the process.
You misunderstand me: Brexit is not an example of good democracy, but the bar is so low that one single vote on a hypothetical with no established aim is still more democratic than any other decision our government makes. All the stuff about governments without majorities and unelected chambers still applies to all their other decisions, but don't even have a single public vote to back them up. It is less democratic.
It's not that big of a deal when it's people from the middle east getting deported, but when it's Britons?
There's definitely a good amount of first world hypocrisy here, but also Sweden's conduct flies in the face of the withdrawal agreement Britain signed with the EU, so there is a story here.
That's something I wasn't too knowledgeable on, but you're right, it does seemingly goes against the agreement that EU and UK might've come to agree on. I haven't read the fine print though, but it would look like Sweden might be breaking it.
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Stories like these are a good reminder to people in the US saying they will just move somewhere else.
There’s really no guarantee anywhere of safety, and when you leave your home country you become the immigrant.
Maybe that will go well, but if anti immigrant populism starts rearing its ugly head anywhere history has shown time and again it can get bad.
There’s really no guarantee anywhere of safety
Frankly, there's no guarantee anyone will allow you in in the first place. A lot of these people really, really overestimate the strength of the American passport and think this translates to some immigration advantage, but in most cases it doesn't. You still need a, usually very specific and skilled job that's hard to find people for, marriage, or close family that's already there. A few countries extend that out to grandparents, but that seems uncommon.
Immigrating anywhere is really, really hard just from a legal perspective, nevermind the cultural and/or linguistic isolation that wears on you over time. There's a reason a lot of people don't do it and of those that do, many go back before too long.
People will support/apologize for shit like this and wonder why fascists are gaining power where they live.
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