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Mayor Adams announces executive order aimed at restricting Texas Gov. Greg Abbott's migrant busing (www.politico.com)

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The executive order mandates migrant charter buses must announce their arrival 32 hours in advance and can only drop off migrants between 8:30 a.m. and 12 p.m.

Mayor Eric Adams issued an executive order Wednesday to restrict the flow of migrant charter buses sent by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott to New York City.

Adams said the order mandates any buses carrying migrants arrive in the city only between 8:30 a.m. and noon on weekdays. The buses’ arrival must also be announced 32 hours in advance, he said. The order specifically applies to buses contracted by the state of Texas — whose governor Adams routinely blames for sending asylum seekers into the five boroughs.

The announcement came during a joint briefing with the mayors of Chicago and Denver. The three cities have formed a coalition to press the White House and federal government for more migrant aid as each metropolis grapples with the economic and governmental burden of housing, feeding and educating tens of thousands of migrants.

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[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 83 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It was already illegal - It was human trafficking.

It'd be nice to have people enforce the laws we already have first instead of this security theatre.

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

This puts it in his jurisdiction to do something. He really can't do much. But he is fighting with what he has.

[+] APassenger@lemmy.world -14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If life was shit where I came from, I made it in, and I was told I could go to NYC or stay in south Texas, I'd get on the bus.

Have you been near the border? There's not a lot of opportunity right there.

Edit: Since this seems to be attracting those who disagree. This is not human trafficking.

And my point about an immigrant choosing not to work in a place where they can be replaced immediately... The point stands.

If your complaint is with immigration generally, then that's a different thing.

The immigrants aren't mentally slow. They just want better and were willing to risk it. An intelligent person would take the free ride to improved opportunity. Even more true if family was there and this saves cash.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cool, now imagine you made it over and have family in Houston, but some asshole forces you on a bus to NYC where the COL is insanely high and you don't know anyone.

[+] APassenger@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

They aren't forced on the bus. That is illegal. This is choosing.

Esit: from the article & note the states in the last paragraph.

While both Adams and Johnson have referred to Abbott’s transporting of migrants as “cruel,” New York City has also paid to transport asylum seekers to destinations outside the city. Between March and November, the city said it spent about $4.6 million to purchase more than 19,300 plane tickets for migrants seeking travel to other cities.

In both Texas and New York, local governments say the migrants are traveling willingly.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

Migrants are often lied to to get them onto these buses. They're willing because they're under false impression of where they're going.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago

I dunno if I'd take the word of either one of these locales on whether the migrants are willingly boarding these transports. This could very well be the "board this bus or we're going to throw you in a cage and forget about you" type of "willingly."

[–] Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

It says in that article the group that got sent to Martha's vineyard are making claims of human trafficking. I find it hard to believe the people put on these buses aren't coerced or lied to. I think there are many reasons people would want to move to NYC instead of bordertown Texas but I don't see Texan politicians caring to filter out ones who do and don't want to go and simply rounding a group up and getting them on a bus.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 73 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They should really stop providing funding to the states transporting migrants to other states. Send the money to the states taking them in and fuck Texas and Florida. That's all.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 9 points 2 years ago

"You can keep doing it as long as you let us know in advance and come at this time" is a very odd reaction to rampant human trafficking across state lines..

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Lol, if you've ever traveled by bus in new York state you'll know there are men with guns who stop the bus and ask to see your papers at least twice before you can get to the city

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As an NYC taxpayer, I’ll say that I am glad they’re better off here than in TX, but I wish this weren’t some cunty stunt by Abbott and, rather, a genuinely well-coordinated dealing-with-the-situation.

Oh, and I really hate to give Addams credit for anything, ever, but this was pretty clever (as a political maneuver— just maybe not really helping matters with immigrants that much considering the housing issues).

Perhaps the signals a reversal in policy, or, at least, a reversal in the disaster in how he’s been handling things recently. If he is asking for lead time in immigrant bus arrivals, perhaps he has a plan for provisioning space for them. That, at least, signals much more good news to come on the immigrant housing front.

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[+] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml -14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This will surely make an impact.

[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It will if they start fining the bus companies exorbitantly or impounding buses. They won't take on the contracts from Texas and Florida.

[–] Elgordofordo86@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

They are already dropping outside of Chicago city limits. I believe Chicago already had been trying this.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol what is the point of this comment?

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Many people have an attitude that if something isn’t perfect you don’t do it, even if it’s so much better than doing nothing. It’s a weird reactionary thing and shows a complete lack of critical thinking.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nothing < try something < good thing < better thing < perfection

I don't understand, sometimes, how we as individuals and a society get caught doing nothing because the perfect, magic solution hasn't arrived yet.

We do what we can with what we have. And better is better. And sometimes a try is all we got (to start with).

I wish more people thought about things critically...

[–] cvozbosher@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's something to be said for trying the wrong thing too. Learning something doesn't work is just as valuable as learning something works. A lot of people (myself included) are afraid to fail so it's easier to do nothing than to try and fail. I force myself everyday to get out there and fail because if I've been the loser who did nothing and that was far worse than failing.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz -3 points 2 years ago

Failing is a gift if you can do it with an open mind. you either try and get it, or you try and learn how not to do it. The tricky bit is that the learning is highly optional.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Except "things to try" can be analyzed and scrutinized before you actually try them. You act as if we're incapable of doing any of that and must instead consult some flowchart after the fact.

Can you make a good argument on what this solution is supposed to accomplish?

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ensuring the staff that processes the immigrants are on hand and ready.

Disincenticizing bus charters that don't comply. Drivers included. Costs to be born by busses and therefore passed on to the states chartering.

Edit to say: I see you acquired a down vote. Was not me. I'm here for discourse not argument.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Your first point is accurate, but I think your second point might not hold up as other comments broaching this topic have spoken of busses dropping passengers off outside of city limits in Chicago since they implemented rules banning these charters.

I suppose these new rules might not make things any worse even if they don't actually accomplish anything which isn't terrible.