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Sad but not unexpected. The EU doesn't do influence operations but its adversaries does. I will not be surprised when it comes out that both Russia and the US invested heavily in getting Iceland to vote no.
A shame that they didn't even want to talk, but at least Trump and Putin got their wish.
The EU doesn’t do influence operations but its adversaries does
THIS is very, very narrow plank to walk on...
They can barely communicate the good things that they openly do, so being able to do covert influence operations is... unlikely.
See how good they are?
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I get the fear around the fishing industry, but regardless of Iceland's dependance on them we all need to stop eating fish. We're completely wrecking the ocean ecosystems - it's not sustainable.
I'd love to have Iceland fully join us in the EU.
See, they saw through this and knew Europeans would take their fish away.
They're wrecked, what we have now is what's left of an oceanic apocalyptic event.
I read very interesting interview with a fisherman from Iceland. He said that he wanted to join the EU in the past but now it is „economic prison” and he doesn’t want to join it. To me - it really looks like we are loosing propaganda battle with huge empires spreading propaganda against the eu aggressively, without our response. No idea how to change that but I spent half of the morning thinking about it with no result. It really is not based on merit. Like most of politics nowadays. We have the highest standard of living, strong economy etc. Yes - we are getting weaker by sending shit tones of money to our adversaries for LNG which we literally just burn but we can counter that.
well of course the fishing industry us scared because they are disgusting whale murderers.
From what I know, it's only one guy who still does that and most of the meat becomes dog food
So how is that justified and necessary then?
No but probably not the reason for the outcome of the referendum as a majority of Icelanders is against whaling
yes but the country is not only unable to stop him but its authorities are actively helping.
This is an update from the Captain Paul Watson Foundation whose detained ship I saw in Reykjavik when I was there three weeks ago.
5d ago
BANDERO UPDATE!
Five crew members have now been deported from Iceland following weeks of detention and immigration proceedings. They’ve been released thanks to your pressure and email so THANK YOU!
One crew member, the Bandero’s chief engineer, remains detained.The vessel itself also remains seized and under the control of Icelandic authorities.
On August 17, the Bandero was towed from Reykjavík to Akranes, where she remains today.For weeks, members of the crew faced uncertainty, detention and limited access to communication. In some cases, crew members waited approximately 48 hours before they were able to contact their families and confirm they were safe. Several have now returned home without their phones and other personal belongings, which remain in the possession of Icelandic authorities as part of the ongoing investigation.
The Captain Paul Watson Foundation continues to work with legal counsel regarding the seizure of the Bandero, the treatment and detention of the crew, and the ongoing investigation.Our immediate priority is clear: we want our ship back.“Operation 86 was stopped before our work was finished. This is not the end of Operation 86.”— Jonny Velasquez
The majority of the crew may now be home, but the Bandero remains seized, one crew member remains detained, and our mission remains unfinished.We will continue. Please send the new follow up email just created to keep the pressure and also support our work with a donation if you can to finance the legal operations!
I expected them to vote as much. Iceland is a tiny country that relies mainly on fishing. And it’s not like the smaller mainland European nations, who heavily rely on their larger neighbors for trade and defense.
The vote also seems to have been prompted by fears of US aggression. Iceland is already in NATO so (on paper) it benefits from collective defense. Joining the EU might cement defense commitments by mainland countries, but Iceland will still need to invest heavily in national defense for that to realistically protect them from a belligerent America.
but Iceland will still need to invest heavily in national defense to realistically protect them from a belligerent America.
To me this just doesn't seem feasible for a country like Iceland. Imo there is a threshold that needs to be reached before any level of protection is achieved and imo Taiwan is basically the only small country that managed to reach this point. But what it took to get there is being the linchpin for the most important global industry.
It's pretty stupid to not even look at the offer EU would make
Yeah, not even looking at the offer seems stupid. Unless maybe you think that it leads to consequences before you get the chance to voice your opinion again. I'm not sure how it was communicated in the lead up to this referendum, at what stage in the process the next one would be.