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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 75 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I'd be upset, too. It shouldn't be a hotel, it should be a park. A hotel in this pretty neighborhood would be awful. Especially since it's probably going to be Millennial Beige

A lovely neighborhood that was ruined by a parking lot and will continue to be ruined by building a hotel there

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 35 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Yeah but a hotel is still better than a parking lot. It's literally the worst land use possible.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Can't do handbrake turns in the snow on a hotel

[–] vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world 31 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

I like your energy

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What about a compromise: A trailer park. Private equity still gets to lease out the land to tenants, who own their own trailer and rent them out to Air BNB guests. It's win-win-win.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'd make a Trailer Park Boys joke but I'm having a hard time enjoying it anymore

[–] bomibantai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Got you dawg

"They could pay them $20 to fuck off"

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

A hotel would destroy the view from those units along the left, as well as the church. They can see for quite a ways now, after the hotel, they'll be staring at a hotel. Why does this hotel get to bring down the living quality of those around it, with no compensation? Will rents in those units decrease because they are going be much less desirable when they are right up against a hotel with transient guests every day?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

There's totally compensation. They give the local arts place a bunch of money and host local art. (Which they can pay to get out of.) And they also have to let people use the roof for a whole 20 hours a week! (Which they can pay to get out of.)

[–] lamlox@piefed.social 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] schnapsman@feddit.org 1 points 27 minutes ago

And how was it? Worth demonstrating for in front of city council? I imagine someone switching off their car, closing their eyes and just soaking in the sweet satisfaction of having parked there.

[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 42 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like this post and highlighted quote requires more context. The parking lot is next to a church, most of the voices of dissent in the article are from people who go to that church and someone involved with another hotel being constructed not far away. The City Council voted 7-1 to approve the replacement of the parking lot with a hotel. Councilmember Nicole Speer, the one quoted above, is a member of the church who voted IN FAVOR of removing the parking lot.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

In other words, it's even worse because they would mostly only be parking there on Sunday anyway.

Frankly, church people can be the worst, most entitled assholes about this sort of thing. I remember a cycle track got removed in my city because, even though the bollards had been removed and the church-goers had already been allowed to park on top of it on Sundays, they still weren't fucking satisfied!

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

Good point. If that's the main issue, a hotel will a parking garage could have a much higher capacity for cars and offer parking passes for the Church. I'd rather see low-income housing or a park, but it's not my town.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

A fuckcars sub is arguing against removal of a parking lot?

[–] zoloftt@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The sale would be to build a hotel. It's not like hotels reduce the amount of vehicles people are driving.

It's potentially worse than the parking lot.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Where should they put the hotel then? In the middle of nowhere so people have to drive there?

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Who says they need a hotel. Might as well ask where they would put the used car dealership.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago

Yeah, nobody ever goes to Boulder CO, anyone dumb enough to visit their kid at UC can easilly sleep in their... car...

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The Ford is my shepherd. I shall not want.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

"That they gathered themselves together, to fight with Joshua and with Israel, with one Accord."