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[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 hour ago

Me, an American: “You guys have public transportation?”

[–] remon@ani.social 1 points 33 minutes ago

DB trains made me appreciate the reliability and punctuality of air planes ...

[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 1 points 35 minutes ago

The expected delayed effect of austerity politics that were so successfully exported throughout the European Union with great efficiency and cruelty.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 21 points 3 hours ago

but it worked on the spreadsheet where the lack of maintenance in the lines doesn't cause issues, no personnel is ever sick, and people deboard and board the train in a microsecond

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[–] Lupus108@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Iirc for the DB a train is considered on time when it's not later than 7 min on arrival. Which is a joke if you miss your following connection.

[–] python@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

A train that doesn't arrive at all is also not considered late.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 54 minutes ago

they abuse this mechanic to catch up on late trains, by stopping their trains a couple stops before the end stop and turning them around to drive the other direction, now not late anymore.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

I have this same argument with my spouse. If fifteen minutes late is "on time", then change the arrival time and just be on time.

[–] mr_might44@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Luckily the next train you have to take is also late, so nothing really changes. A system so broken that it works "perfectly".

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 2 hours ago

3rd biggest country by GDP btw. I guess that' what you get for voting conservatives for 20+ years.

[–] rustyfish@piefed.world 10 points 3 hours ago

I am terrorised by the Deutsche Bahn so much, when I first visited GB I thought their rail service is amazing.

[–] fdnomad@programming.dev 10 points 3 hours ago

They figured out a loophole to improve the statistics: a train can't be late if it never arrives.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 3 hours ago

He means the forms you have to fill out to get your compensation rejected.

[–] Fafa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Sitting in a train right now. It started half an hour late and on top of that we have to drive a detour because of an accident on the tracks. Ah well.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 4 points 3 hours ago

In Slovenia, our trains are 4 hours late and we're grateful for it!

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It’s a friendly rivalry among many European countries to boast about how shitty their railway companies are.

[–] Klear@piefed.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Americans are not invited to this conversation.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

USAians have functioning railways? Before Turamp became president, I wanted to visit and looked up whether there were any trains to the places I wanted to go - it was abysmal. If there was a train, it was once a week or something, slow af and stopped very far from wherever I would've wanted to visit.

Their railway system was a joke back then and probably is even worse by now. Last I read about any improvements to it was some highspeed train planned to be built between San Francisco and Los Angeles (or something) and it being delayed by NIMBYs and unwilling governors paid off by the car lobbies. I fully expect it to be (or have been) cancelled.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I think they were making the same point

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 35 minutes ago
[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The fuck are you on about?

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 3 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

India: rookie numbers.

Anyway, are those long distance/intercity trains or local/metro/intracity trains?

[–] swooper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

More often long distance. If your train starts to run late, you lose priority to other trains in time and it spirals. 20->30->60->… 5 hours and transferring to other trains. Its cooked

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Long distance is worse then regional lines iirc.

Regional is mostly okay, but every now and then there is one not arriving at all

[–] emmanuel_car@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago

I’d rank it long distance, regional, then s-Bahn in terms of least to most reliable. But when s-Bahn shits itself, it takes the whole system down (in Munich at least).

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Probably everything. For local trains, even Berlin is at above 90% reliability.

[–] RavuAlHemio@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I understand the whole “it has to get worse before it gets better” angle when some railway sections have to be closed for a complete overhaul, but I feel like there’s an infrastructure equivalent to refeeding syndrome.

When your body has to make do with little-to-no food, it restructures its metabolism to deal with that. When you suddenly increase your food intake again, it can’t deal with that and you die. Instead, food intake must be slowly ramped up.

When an infrastructure provider has little money for repairs, they tend to take their most urgent “cannot be postponed” repairs, rank them, and do the absolutely most urgent “cannot be postponed” ones first. When they suddenly receive more money, there is a tendency to abandon this ranking system because all of these repairs are urgent “cannot be postponed” repairs and they no longer need to be ranked… which leads to collapse because of course the primary, the backup and the other backup route are being repaired at the same time, all three are in need of urgent “cannot be postponed” repairs!

I think the management structures of infrastructure providers should take this into account when a budget increase comes their way.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Their strategy so far is to close and overhaul lines completely. I think it is somewhat fair to expect that's cheaper and faster than overhauling one side at a time. They prioritize by traffic and urgency of overhauls. It is a solid strategy - but it comes with major disruptions of long distance travel