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[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world 19 points 3 days ago (5 children)

What purpose does this trade war with Canada even serve? What's the point of starting it? What is there to gain?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Trump's ego must be sated.

That's what there is to 'gain'.

He's just literally a raving demented lunatic, a sundowning narcissist. A real life cariacature of a mad king, a comic book supervillain.

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He doesn't deserve that much credit. He's just an asshole flailing about from a position of unearned privilege and ego

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm low-key certain he's a foreign agent intended to sabotage the US.

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I keep asking myself how that could be wrong, but I've also given up on hoping to understand their weird-as-hell logic about how things 'ought to be. None of it appears to be grounded in reality or reason.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that's true. Trump, his administration, and the MAGA movement are fascists, not idiots. Fascism is an ideology that sees the problems of capitalism through the lenses of idealism and nationalism. They believe society can only be fixed by a visionary leader unencumbered by traditional limits on power. They don't see class conflict. Instead they see national conflict as the source of societal issues.

When the Nazis were overheating their economy in order to aggressively re-arm, their economic minister proposed some sensible fiscal policy to cool things off. However, these policies would slow the re-armament, so he was fired because he didn't have the willpower to do what needed to be done. In the end, the only way to keep getting the resources needed to keep building the war machine was to invade Poland.

This is the ideology that leads you to devalue international cooperation and instead see other nations as rivals to be dominated. Fascism won't be defeated by calling them stupid. Instead it comes from showing people that the problems of society come from class conflict.

I know you weren't trying to give some big analysis of Trump's ideology. But I can't resist an opportunity to infodump.

[–] shartgargle@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

You can be both a fascist AND an idiot. Infact I believe one relies on the other as a prerequisite.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Distraction from the Epstein files, chaos to place more ~~bets~~ trades online, makes trump feel better because he keeps saying stupid shit and his fragile little ego gets all twisted the second anyone disagrees or criticises any of the sewage he keeps spewing out of his mouth

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

No one cares about the Epstein files.

Americans care about gas prices. There could be live video of Ford fucking a gay pig and no one would care. It is ingrained in US culture that the wealthy are entitled to do whatever they want, and the poor support this because they believe that wealth comes from hard work.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Chaos in the markets. If you know what Trump is about to do, you can get richer.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just have to toss in that hundred grand into his own personal social media site and you can have all the inside info you want!

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That doesn't get you inside info, that gives you a feed of posts as they come out instead of having to scrape or browse

Actual inside info is going to cost significantly more and probably require a referral.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

and don't forget bribes to Trump and his family. Milei has been stuffing Trump's pockets in Argentina and now Milei has privatized 9,000 kms of roads - Mike Harris on steroids.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

The point is to destroy. His orders are to destroy America.

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

So his friends can play on the stock exchange and make tons of money on the back of everyone else.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t trust a word Ford says.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Especially since he has no clue what he's talking about. Ontario buys and sells electricity across the border, and thanks to his incompetence, we have been buying more since 2023. We buy about a third of what we sell.

All in, electricity represents 0.4% of trade for Canada. But hey, let's elect another high school grad to run a $1T economy to do stupid shit.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is he pouring out Crown Royal there? Why?

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't know. No more kings?

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I guess we already got one.

edit: https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6887815

tldr mad at the company for closing a bottling plant

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Ok, but why does a company play politics?

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago

Wow, the big 3 automakers are really going nuts.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Circular trade is circular. All this talk of US-Canada trade war is going to be miserable for everyone. But each side is too self-centered and vindictive to give a shit, particularly when the bulk of the pain is going to land on the most economically vulnerable.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

But each side is too self-centered and vindictive to give a shit

I have my criticisms of Mark Carney and his Liberal government, but you can't really "both sides" the tensions between the USA and Canada right now. Only one side is too self-centred and vindictive, and it's not Canada. Canada has been thrown into the position of constantly having to defend itself from unprovoked attacks by the USA.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 10 points 3 days ago

Exactly. It's past time for the US to fuck off and for Canada to form stronger trade deals with the sane countries of the world.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have my criticisms of Mark Carney and his Liberal government, but you can’t really “both sides” the tensions between the USA and Canada right now.

I can when we're talking about Doug fucking Ford. This isn't a Canada v US thing, it's a Doug Ford Reactionary Populism versus Donald Trump Reactionary Populism pissing contest. They've got functionally identical politics, the same basket of empty promises, even the same damned photo-op strategy. Canada's Fords are carbon copies of America's Trumps.

Canada has been thrown into the position of constantly having to defend itself from unprovoked attacks by the USA.

Literally the Trump line about the US and Mexico. Almost word for fucking word.

Who needs an October surprise with this BS?