As this is basically a PR campaign for Brave, here's your reminder to stop using that software:
World News
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF OCTOBER 19 2025
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Ask Historians !askhistorians@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
No doubt the takeaway from the article is supposed to be 'just use Brave' instead of 'don't fucking use AliExpress'
Is that why any tab (on Firefox) with aliexpress opened on it seems to always be showing that little loudspeaker icon at the top? There are a lot of products that have videos showcasing the product so at first I assumed it had something to do with that, but then I noticed it happens on products that only have photos, too.
yup
In that case it's by no means just one site doing this.
That happens?
I guess it is blocked on my system.
I did some js reverse engineering work on chinese websites few years ago and it's legit industry leading tracking tech. Very few websites in the west are even remotely as sophisticated in that regard.
Unsurprisingly China has the best tracking ecosystem but it's not for the reasons you might think. It's just so competitive in China that tracking and automation blocking is super important for chinese businesses.
Have you noticed that there's no such thing like internet archive in China? It's because nobody wants it. It's too dangerous to have recorded history of any sort.
nobody? you mean, not even the common people? what are the dangers they see?
Business dangers from scraping / automation are basically of two types:
- archival record for proof mostly for legal prosecution and contract negotiation. There's a lot of really bad shit going on on Chinese web despite the great firewall of China and you can hide it in plain sight if it's ephemeral. So if I sell illegal goods but it's not archived ever no one can really prosecute me. Gray/black markets players in China just rebrand every month and get away with everything.
- real time data for price/trend competition. Prices and trends move incredibly fast in China, people in the west don't even understand how far ahead chinese e-commerce is, Amazon is like 10 years behind. So all that scraped info is incredibly valuable for chasing capitalism.
The CCP disagreeing with your version of recorded history, probably.
Will it be possible for you to share your findings?
I don't think we've discovered anything particularly niche that isn't public knowledge today. Since Fable-line of LLMs dropped deobfuscating and reverse engineering web and phone apps is very approachable. Github is full of resources and you can start with something like cloakbrowser
None of fingerprint tech is illegal in any way so it's a free for all and every browser except Brave (which yeah I know sucks) does basically nothing to fix this.
They've been doing this for a very long time, and I was forced to stop using their website as a result. Nothing new here. If you're on Firefox, you can use an addon called JShelter to alert you when fingerprinting is taking place (and optionally block it).
Firefox wouldn't let this happen btw. Just use firefox peoples
The original report showed this exploit occurred with Firefox too.
Old firefox. Removed this fingerprinting some time ago now
Even with uBlock origin?
Yup. The author included custom uBO rules to block it.
even with uMatrix ?
Oh no, I guess it's le shill lion from now on
Safari is slow to add features, did it work there too?
Why yes; Safari did add the ability for a web page to play audio on January 7th, 2003
I thought this was about a Bluetooth devices API though.
LibreWolf
Cartoon villains envy their creativity.
The very few times I had to open AliExpress and give it wide permissions because otherwise it simply refuses to show anything - I always felt dirty afterwards.
It doesn't matter, I've never bought anything there.
Well, that's a relief to all of us, I'm sure.