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I still use gmail and drive for work but otherwise I'm never logged into anything google at home. Today when I tried to expand on a restaurant's hours it wouldn't let me see them without logging in, although it still worked in incognito. This restaurant screenshot is just a random other example I tried, but for the one I was actually checking google had the correct hours while the official website hasn't been updated in awhile and had the old ones (website said they're still open for dinner but they've only been doing lunch for a year or so now)

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[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I work in 911 dispatch, we're not really supposed to log into our personal accounts on the work computers, there have been a couple incidents (not specifically in the 911 center but other parts of our county government) where people have gotten viruses and such from opening links in their personal emails on county computers.

A lot of us in dispatch make pretty heavy use of Google maps. When a caller doesn't know where they are and we're not getting a good location from their cellphone, we can sometimes see a lot of details on Google maps that we can't see on the maps on our dispatch software.

There have been a couple times a caller has described a house to me and a general area that it was in but not the exact address, but I was able to get that address from looking around on satellite view and street view.

Sometimes we can see businesses and other places on it that aren't in our system or come up as something slightly different, like maybe everyone calls a school "the Smith School," but the actual name of it, and how it's listed in our system is the "John Q Smith Preparatory Academy" so if I search in our system for "Smith School" I won't find it, but if I look on Google maps I might see that pop up.

There's cases where like if the call is on the border between 2 towns and I need know which department to dispatch, I can look on maps for little landmarks that probably wouldn't be listed in any map software so that I can ask something like "are you on the same side of the road as the house with a big statue on the front lawn, or are you across the street from that house?"

Point is, it's a very valuable tool for my job in situations that can actually be life-and-death sometimes, and since I can't log in to it at work, I worry about getting shut out from features I use or even out of the service entirely.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That is a point you need to bring up in your official capacity with the 911 dispatch you work for. Tell them what is going on and ask for a system account to be set up for each agent so that it’s just a formal login that is tied to the job and nothing else.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

There's OpenStreetMap. I'm not saying that it's as suitable as Google Maps for you, but it's a possible option.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/

The're not a commercial service, and the database backing it is freely distributable, so it won't get cut off.

It doesn't have Google Street View, though, and attempts at reimplementing such a thing have been pretry weak.

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[–] redditmodssucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Next gen911 is going to fix this I work for county making the maps for Newworld or whatever dispatch system you’re using. Soon the whole county will be running on NG911. You can look it up but it basically replaces using the old lookup your system currently uses that comes from a master list Verizon and att own.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

I really don't see how NG911 is going to help when all my callers can tell me sometimes is something like that they're near some trees, a big rock, and a brick wall. That's not exactly something I can punch into my CAD. Or when it's a 3rd party caller for their grandmother in a different town who needs help, but all they can give me is that it's a big yellow house about 2 blocks from the elementary school with a statue of a cow on the front lawn.

There's a lot of cool things that NG911 can help with, some of it is already implemented in my county, but they're largely not the things I use Google maps for.

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[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Sure, go ahead irritating me when trying to use your service. Pushing me to log-in is THE way to drive me to other services. They have nothing to offer that's worth/can justify logging in. nothing.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

They probably don't care if you use a different service if you don't log in to use theirs. If you don't log in they can't easily monetize you by tracking your data and building a portfolio. Otherwise you use their resources at a cost and they don't make money.

So threatening to leave for other services isn't exactly a threat.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For a long time google existed without an option to create an account

[–] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Except the government wanting this information didn't exist. That's the future, you ID will be tracked (it already is) and the government will know exactly what you say, where you go, and what you do. Throw it at an 'AI' for 'normalcy' and you have Minority Report in a much sadder way.

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[–] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

They still know who most users are even without a google login; they can monetize just fine.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

They don't care, but in 10 to 20 years time they will hire consultants to figure out why their user base chose inferior products to their superior free service.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Except up-to-date opening hours, apparently

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[–] Maestro@fedia.io 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You should see what they did with reCaptcha. Today for the first time I got the popup telling me to scan a QR code with my phone in order to continue. Well, fuck that.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Make sure to tell the owner of the site why you don't wasn't to use it anymore.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They will make everything mandatory log in for 100% named tracking soon, unless regulations call for otherwise.

These tech companies are the ones demanding ID laws to use the internet on computers. Microsoft OS already serves unique identifiers that can track down computers, and they want to close the loop.

They already have an overwhelming amount of information about us anyway, but the more perfect the dataset the more power, control and advertising revenue it affords.

These billionaire owned companies all want to enslave us all with absolute control. Call me paranoid or dismiss what I’m saying if you would like, but unless we can fix our politics in all of our respective areas to free them from the yoke of big money it will only get worse.

[–] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh it's not just tech companies, it's tech companies getting ahead of the government who is going to demand the same thing. Say something that the government doesn't agree with, boom, you already have the information readily available.

We could fight against it and refuse to use these services, but that would change the things we are all addicted to.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Everyone has their breaking points. The enshittification will continue until morale improves (by leaving Google).

The only Google properties I still use are YouTube and Scholar (occasionally).

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[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Soon; "Or click here and we will stop bugging you for this and use you ip, mouse movement behaviors, scroll lag time and recent cookie history to identify you without having to even log in!"

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

I really just need to get off google entirely but I'm also very unmotivated/lazy/ADHD, and the common alternative FOSS maps just don't provide the same level of detail, especially in non-US or English speaking countries.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Depends on where you live, in the EU, openstreetmap.org is way more accurate than Google.

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

And you can make a new hobby for yourself by updating things as you come across them

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For Google, the primary difference between a logged-in user and one who is not logged in is the absence of any contractual agreement that legally binds the anonymous user to terms assigned by Google.

I haven't read a Google EULA in some time, but as I recall it was long and full of rights and waivers and privileges and protections you assign Google in regard to anything wherein you might possibly have legal standing. The log-in request is not universal, nor is it random, so it's safe to assume as a hypothetical that for whatever reason, Google wants that in this specific scenario, in this specific geographical region.

On the other hand, if you're not signed in -- AND Google can't link your anonymous use to an actual agreement you have with them elsewhere -- Google just doesn't have that same comfortably protected legal situation. (See Disney's recent legal behavior for an example of why, if Google can still link your non-signed-in behavior to an existing EULA elsewhere in their walled garden, you may still be fucked.)

OP's map seems to be located in the EU, which makes a legal difference as well. We already know that Google does whatever the fuck Google wants in the US, but in the EU laws tend to have more teeth as well as legislators very willing to go after violators.

All that said, I am not an attorney in Spain and I damn sure don't work for Google, so don't come at me lol.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's sad to see how time and time again companies build up a big user base by being the best service out there, and then just assume that they'll be the market leaders forever and ever no matter how much they enshittify.

The amount of vendor lock-in with something like Google Maps is very close to zero.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

OpenStreetMap ftw

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I use google maps in the browser on my phone without an account logged in. Every single time I open it, it gives me a pop up message begging me to use their app with two buttons at the bottom that are blatantly dark patterned and misleading to get you to accidentally click on their app store link.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which is why I'm building my own self hosted map application

Fuck Google with an umbrella

[–] tomatolung@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't you just press dismiss? And make a ublock filter to stop it happening again

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[–] arran4@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Use guest mode over incognito.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I'm jumping ship for comaps, it's FOSS, no data collection, uses Wikipedia for location descriptions, has an offline mode, and doesn't do weird shit like divert you from a highway to drive on gravel roads to circumvent a perfectly fine 5 mile stretch of highway

[–] DPEWGF@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Wondering if I should be on comaps or osmand

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

There's also our very own community here on lemmy, !CoMaps@sopuli.xyz

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 2 weeks ago

They want your data, and if you don’t give it to them by logging in, they’re cutting you off. Probably.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

udm14.com does not appear to be affected.

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