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French Art historian Nathalie Trouveroy shared footage with Le Monde from her personal archives of the Tiananmen Square protests, shedding new light on how the Chinese regime violently repressed the student protests in June 1989.

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The analysis of previously unseen images obtained by "Le Monde" and leading testimonies provide a better understanding of how the Chinese regime gradually shifted to the violent repression of the student demonstrations in the spring of 1989.

Spring 1989, Tiananmen Square. At the heart of the student demonstrations, a young expatriate, Nathalie Trouveroy, films the Beijing protesters, their slogans, their enthusiasm and their fear with her Hi8 video camera. These images, which remained in a family setting for a long time, are unpublished archives obtained by Le Monde.

Her husband, Guy Trouveroy, was then a political adviser at the Belgian Embassy in Beijing. For seven weeks, the couple were privileged witnesses to the regime's hesitation, torn between dialogue, obstruction and repression of the demonstrators. When the movement turns in favour of democratic measures, the communist government sends tanks against the population. On the night of 3-4 June 1989, the massacre took place. The repression would spread throughout China.

Since then, the Chinese authorities have been trying to erase Tiananmen from the collective memory. But, thirty-eight years later, Nathalie Trouveroy's never-before-seen video and photo archives have come to light. With these family images, the Trouveroy couple intend to preserve the memory of the victims of the bloody repression of the Tiananmen movement.

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[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah nothing so exceptional in the documentary, in France they killed as much during yellow jackets protests. The reportage even told that the number is exaggerated...

I start to think the tieneman square was a protest going awry which was blown out of proportion. Je policite shot people with explosive and mortar in France when they decided to remove them from a aéroport expansion area. The videos are far far far worse than these. Hundred of people hurts, many killed too.

It seem to confirm the version that there was death by tank but not in th square but on a bridge.

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 16 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What? The yellow jackets protests went on for 2 years and the death toll was 11. The tiananmen square massacre went on for two days and the death toll was over 200 by the Chinese government's own admission, with the true figure likely in the thousands.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

11, they didn't count cardiac arrest and respiratory arrest. They only counted media intensive cases. Some one counted the people hurted (I think it is in blast) and they got multiple hundreds. And that was with less lethal weapons.

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I don't think hundreds were killed. I would need to see a source on that. The best count is 11 died, with another dozen max dying from medical issues during the protests. Again, this is over the course of two years, where the 1989 massacre happened during less than a week and 250-3000 people were killed

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

What about Sainte soline ? Did you watch video ? The protestor where receiving mortar and cops were caught targeting protestor heads for fun.

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

First of all, fuck the crs, and fuck Emmanuel Macrotte. I was tear gassed during the gilet jaune protests. Yes the French state has disgusting underhanded ways of dealing with protesters. Agents provocateurs, unchecked police violence, people maimed and blinded etc.
But, this wasn't a massacre followed by a cover up. Thousands did not die, only for the state to erase their lives from history. France did not kill as many, you are incorrect.

[–] mat@jlai.lu 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

At Sainte Soline, cops shot to kill, screaming "FLAT SHOT!" about their grenade launchers, and about how they longed to destroy protestors. ACAB everywhere at all time

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The bike brigade during yellow jackets was hunting and hit protestor and more if they were not white... People only seen BFM TV and though they seen all. People came back with broken member afraid to go to hospital since police was looking for people hurt on the day they attacked people. Crazy shit for two years.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Bots talking to each other

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm not the one trying to suggest that the CCP and the French govt are anywhere remotely similar - plus, do you even understand what doomer means?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Oh god, tankies are going to swarm like ants on this post doing mental gymnastics about how Tianamen didn't happen, or it wasn't as bad as it is portrayed to be, or whataboutism!

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago

They're working overtime

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 3 points 17 hours ago

Lol if you look at the video you know there is nothing exceptional in it.

[–] LavenderBreton@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

As an anarcho-communist, I do my best to not engage with full-on tankies.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Onty clicked into this for the somersaults.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

For french people passing by, did you know we also had a Tiananmen-like massacre in 1967 in France resulting in more than 100 protesters being killed and their bodies being stolen and disposed by authorities ?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For the non-francophones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Guadeloupe_riots

Also, while legally the island of Guadeloupe is part of France, it is one of the overseas departments and regions (i.e. a colony), in the Caribbean, not part of mainland France. Just to be clear to people who are not familiar with France's governance who might be misled by "in France".

[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Horrible, but at least it's reported by the press without an authoritarian regime repressing it and persecuting journalists.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Evil governments are inevitable. The power of democracy and free speech/free press is that it allows us to easily know about it, fight them, and eventually confine or remove them. As long as we protect these things, we have a chance. Once they're lost, the fight against evil becomes much harder.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The French still protest. They protest really quickly and we should all learn from them.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 3 points 14 hours ago

And the gouvernement is learning from your and is repressing harder and harder

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Her footage has literally zero cases of any sort of violence being carried out against protestors.

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 6 points 15 hours ago

So just the 3000 or so murders we already know about, then.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago

HAAHHAHAHAHAHHAA

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, there was so little violence and nothing happened so hard that the Chinese government has spent decades suppressing all information from its citizens.

.ml just shows how fucking deranged you all are.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

It's like the onion: I only see the domain after some incredu-larity has ensued.

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[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

13:55 shows soldiers next to bodies, covering some with tarps. A bit earlier we see bloodied protestors being carried away to receive medical attention by other protestors.

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