I'm hopeful. I want my next phone without Google or Samsung - and I really hope Motorola will deliver their promises.
And also that the upcoming phone have to have an extendable storage for me to buy. It is my main principle - unfortunately I had to give up on headphone jacks...

If you want GrapheneOS without funding Google, why not get a secondhand Pixel?

If you understand what graphene is for and you need that then you wont wait.

Even if you don’t understand what graphene is for or if you need it and are trying to make a decision: graphene on new and used pixel phones works as expected now. It has been tested and proven against many different intelligence and surveillance apparatus. Motorolas new phone may not come out at all (it’s more likely than you might think!), may not end up supporting graphene (or graphene may not end up supporting it!) or it may have serious flaws that need to be addressed (it is a new hardware platform after all!).

If you need it now don’t wait.

Swappa.com for a cheap ass used pixel...typed from my cheap ass pixel with GrapheneOS

Buy it now if you're ready to make the switch. That timeline sounds a bit optimistic. Last I heard Motorola had confirmed they're working with GOS on bringing a phone to market, but no release date has been announced, unless I'm mistaken.

It's a great OS. IMO, it works better than most OEM Android OS's, aside from a handful of quirks and a few app issues. I get that buying a Pixel seems antithetical, but it's really just a hardware "shell" for GrapheneOS.

Even if the Motorola GOS phones arrive as soon as you hope, keep in mind it's an initial launch. It may not be as smooth or stable as the current Pixel GOS experience.

I will wait for Motorola.

Aside from how the phones actually compare, I think it'd be good to show there is a market for a factory graphene phone. I want companies to see the difference (financially) when they start taking privacy and other pro consumer ideas seriously.

Unless I needed a replacement now, I would wait. It’ll be the first phone designed with GOS in mind but also Motorola’s recent track record isn’t amazing. I’m also hoping they have multiple phones supporting GOS. If initial reviews aren’t great, then refurbished Pixel it is.

FWIW, am using a pixel 7 pro, and don't feel any need for higher specs. Though I'm not doing any kind of demanding gaming.

Dont buy a pixel new. 11 pro is underwhelming anyway, weak af

What specs do you need? The cheapest GrapheneOS compatible phone you can get for before the Motorola release is a Pixel 6a, or 7/7 Pro if you need better specs. I use a Pixel 6 Pro and the specs are fine if it weren't losing support in October. If you want more longetivy get a Pixel 8.

Honestly however releases a flip phone on which I can install GOS

I'll on the opposite side: will the Moto GOS be more affordable than a Pixel one? It seems they'll go the way of the Signature and beyond

If you have an ok phone now, there's no need for a new one unless it's interesting. I'd wait to see about the moto graphene phone. I'm quite happy with low end moto hardware (G series) but they will probably screw up and make the graphene phone a flagship, as someone mentioned.

I have a Motorola that runs Android 15. It would be great if GrapheneOS would work on it.

I just got a used pixel late last year and have been using that.

Same situation (current phone is dying) so I'll be watching this thread as well, sorry I cant contribute with an answer

I'm thinking of waiting for the actual specs of the Motorolla to make a decision, I don't want to give Google my money so a refubished Pixel is my other option

I am precisely doing that since my xiaomi drowned last month. Got myself a spare/ secondary phone that happens to be my primary at the moment. It has another feature I wanted to try: an eink screen, black and white, easy on my eyes (model: bigme hibreak).

I am happy with my decision :) it's like a digital detox in its own way... Most of my app consumption was text > sound >> video, and the latter doesn't look bad at all anyway, so... here we are. Only some content received via Whatsapp but I use the web version at my pc most of the day (e.g. videos of my family or photos from friends)

The 10 pro still has graphene support. It'll be on sale here in a little while because the pro 11 is launching (same with their other variants, I think). Unless we get a for sure launch date for the graphene moto phones, I'd pull the trigger on a new pixel.

wait like a month and the pixel price will go down to like 600 dollars. that's what I did for my pixel 10.

It all depends on how badly you need a new phone. My current Pixel is perfectly serviceable, so I have no problem waiting to see what Motorola eventually has to offer. My current phone will almost certainly suffice until then.

With that said, if my current phone was actually broken or whatever, I would probably buy a cheap/old/used Pixel to tide me over until the Motorola reveal.

i bought a used 8 pro

It's nice to have some other choices but, given all the current legislation suddenly appearing about requiring vendors to identify users, I think there's a good chance Motorola is rethinking this decision.

If I just learned of GOS now and didn't have a Pixel, I would buy an unlocked unit cheap and used now. Motorola have gone quiet about their GOS phone in the months since the announcement. If it ends up flagship-priced, I'd have to settle for a used Pixel anyway.

But since I have a Pixel with GOS that is perfectly usable already, I'm holding out to see what Motorola comes up with. Either way, not too worried about specs since I don't use my phone that much. Would be nice to have SD card, headphone jack (bonus ease of security points over Bluetooth and dongles), and replaceable battery, but have also learned to (begrudgingly) tolerate phones without those.

I'm waiting. Not only because I'd rather use Motorola over Google, but also because I want to wait and see how the EU ID apps will work on GrapheneOS. If it won't work on GOS (which seems quite likely as of today), then I will ditch the phone as a social medium entirely and only use it for ID, banking apps and other proprietary garbage society forces upon me. I'd relegate my social life to a portable laptop or something, on which I have a far greater control of the software.

I'm sitting on my Pixel 8 until I can compare the Moto Graphene phone and the next Fairphone. If I'm going to get subpar performance relative to Apple and Qualcomm, I'm going to at least get a removable battery in exchange. I want wired video out, which disqualifies the Fairphone 6.

I am waiting for now, for me, since I already have a phone. That said, if it's the difference between zero connection and the status quo, I would just buy something now. The status quo is better than nothing at all. But once Graphene'd Motorola comes out, it's a no brainer purchace.

Maybe, but probaby not gonna budget friendly, because of GOS hardware requirements for security and we all know how overprice a Pixel phone is