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I had another usb cable wear out just this weekend and it got me thinking

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[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Android Auto uses 5GHz WiFi direct, so your headunit needs to support that. If your headunit only supports 2.4GHz, you'll be a bit out of luck.

Spotify streaming may be okay with the 2.4GHz or even just plain Bluetooth.

[–] Carl@anarchist.nexus 13 points 1 day ago

This is also why those USB dongles can allow you to connect wirelessly. It’s essentially just a 5GHz antenna plugged into your car’s USB port.

[–] diablicja@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

My car has its own SIM card, why does it need to connect to my phone anyway?

Edit: I mean directly

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago

Using a cellular connection for that would be very slow, laggy and unreliable. It would also use a ton of data, which someone would have to pay for.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A number of reasons:

  • uses a lot of data (car data plans are often pretty low)
  • relatively slow compared to 5GHz
  • coverage, you ideally want your navigation and music to keep playing even if you go out of range
[–] diablicja@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Makes sense! Thanks for taking time to explain it all.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Android auto/Apple CarPlay is screen mirroring. The apps run on your phone, not the car.

The benefit is that all the app and OS updates your phone receives are reflected in the Android auto experience, without needing the vehicle manufacturer to constantly ship updates and provide support for the head unit of your car for years after it’s originally manufactured.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The later revisions of android auto are Bluetooth, but the first version was cable only. So you just have a car that only had the older version.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Its actually WiFi direct for the wireless version, Bluetooth is for the audio.

[–] diablicja@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yeah so my question could be rephrased as "why can't my car be updated to handle android auto wirelessly if all the necessary gear is already there?". Well, turns out some of the gear might be missing after all.

[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FYI, they make $30-4 bluetooth pucks that make android auto wireless if your car only supports wired. I got one from Motorola and it works great.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I tried the Motorola one and it was unreliable. Switched to the AA wireless and it's been great.

I still use wired USB for long trips tho, phone doesn't heat up quite so much that way.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

Gear might be missing, but the larger problem is car makers like a sell and forget model. The make money on spare parts, but upgrades are not part of the business model. (Maintenance is a dealer profit item not Thiers) so they don't see a way to make money.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Its not there. Newer wireless head units have WiFi built in to handle the screen mirroring portion. Which is why a software update won't work. You need a wireless android auto adapter to get wireless. They work great, just don't cheap out on it.

[–] BlonksClown@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Android Auto is a full phone-projection system, not just an app connecting to your car. It simultaneously handles screen mirroring, input forwarding, audio routing, and sensor sharing.

All of that happening at once requires low latency, high bandwidth, and a stable, reliable connection.

[–] notabot@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can get a small USB device that plugs into the head unit in place of the cable and negotiates a wireless connection with your phone. Mine was a complete game changer, from constantly fiddling with the cable to the phobe already having connected by the time I get into the car.

[–] diablicja@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know there are options but all I can find are from manufacturers I don't know/trust. Which one are you using?

[–] notabot@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

The one I'm using doesn't seem to be stocked any more, it was from a brand called Jansite (no, I'd never hear of them either) and has a horrible RGB glowing ring around it, but it's small and I could plug it in to the USB port in the glove box, so I don't have to look at it. It's worked flawlessly so far, and I'm sure there are other brands of then out there. It was advertised as "Highly compatible wireless carplay adapter Android Auto Wireless adapter 2 in 1, Plug-and-Play Type-C/USB Wireless Carplay Adapter with 5Ghz WiFi, Fast Transmission RGB Easy to Use", so you kniw it has to be good! (It's actually USB Type-A).

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

AAWireles will give you wireless Android Auto.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago
[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is the make and model of the car?

Short version. It's most likely cost and data mining.

Some car manufacturers refuse to put wireless connectivity or require a subscription or offer it as an upgrade for Carplay/Android Auto. If it's an older car then it might not have wifi connectivity and only has Bluetooth.

Some car manufacturers want you to plug your phone in so that you have to use their always connected infotainment system so they can still control the flow of data. There's lots of articles about it.

In short, it is what it is. Change out your radio or get an adapter.

[–] diablicja@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It does have wifi connectivity and even has its own SIM card. Apparently it's a connection speed thing. Sucks, I hoped it's a software problem with a solution :(

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

SIM card just means that the infotainment system can act as a wifi hotspot, it's to get you to pay for their data mining connection and pay them a subscription in exchange for whatever perceived convenience that they are offering. That doesn't mean that it has wifi for Android Auto or Carplay. That's just one reason that many manufacturers are removing Android Auto and Carplay for their own versions.

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

Rule 5. Locking.