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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

When you get the "We are recording for..." and you stay on the line that means you've consented and they've consented to recording at that point.

That's how it works so record away.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They are, and you should.

Most States are single party consent for recording. That means if anyone on the call wants to record the call, they can. So you don't even need to ask.

A few States require everyone to consent to the recording. If everyone does, anyone can.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The following states are all-party consent:

  • California
  • Connecticut
  • Delaware
  • Florida
  • Illinois
  • Maryland
  • Massachusetts
  • Montana
  • New Hampshire
  • Oregon
  • Pennsylvania
  • Washington

IANAL, but if you are in a one party consent state, and they are in a two party (aka all party) consent state, typically all parties must consent.

If you call a customer support line and it says "This call may be recorded for quality assurance purposes", then staying on the line means you consent. I absolutely record all customer service calls, because if it goes absolutely terrible, I love knowing I can just play back what they said. I haven't had to resort to that yet, but it's always good to have it as a backup.

For reference, I just use BCR on my rooted android

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Oregon uses a hybrid rule: phone calls are one-party consent under ORS 165.540(1)(a); in-person oral conversations require all-party notice under ORS 165.540(1)(c).

Ref

So maybe the whole list is compromised? i.e. make sure you double check what the actual law is.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Call recording is built in on my galaxy S25

may be recorded

maybe I consent

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the standard US phrasing is, "This call may be recorded for quality assurance purposes." It is a warning to you, but also a concession from them that you may record, since it doesn't say they may record the call, only that it may be recorded.

See, sometimes you really need the passive voice!

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm not sure that is legally reliable... The word "may" has two meanings, one expressing permission, the other expressing possibility. Clearly they are related, but not the same, so maybe the mean "it might be recorded" rather than saying "permission exists to record it"

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

By continuing to stay in this call you are obviously agreeing to be recorded unless you have the option to deny the request.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (6 children)

It doesn't matter which meaning it is. Either way, if a call might be recorded and you stay on the line, you agree to the possibility of it being recorded. Like wise, them saying the call might be recorded could easily mean it might be recorded by you. There is not an instance where they can consent to only them recording, and not consent to you recording, without a much more legally binding contract.

I always understood it to mean "this call might be recorded" but they are definitely recording. It's like a cheeky "who knows, maybe we'll record maybe we won't" when they are always recording...

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

The way I see it, an announcement was made to all parties that the line may be recorded, not that it might be recorded. If they 'might' record it, that's what they should say, but it's not.

If anyone stays on the line after that point, it could be being recorded.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

The point is that it's no longer expected to be private. Therefore wiretap laws don't apply. (But check with a state lawyer.)

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They do consent. "This call may be recorded" is giving you permission.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Thats correct. I am in charge of this for our company and basically an option off the main menu that is recorded will give this message before fully transferring to that queue. This allows the reps to not have to say it every single time they talk to someone, which could also mean they forget to. For the extensuons the message plays before they are allowed to speak once someone picks up.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you tell them you're recording they’ll hang up though.

So don't tell them then. Their notice to you covers both of you.

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[–] Red_October@piefed.world 10 points 2 days ago

I'm pretty sure they are. Them telling you that they're recording the call is both them "getting your consent" to the recording (Because you continued the call) and them consenting to the recording. They may not think you will have a copy of the recording, but they basically started by saying the call can be recorded.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They is why there is the concepts of one party and two party call recording consent.

If you are in a one party area, you absolutely can record the call without telling them.

Not entirely sure how it works with 2 party areas if both parties want to record the call. I am not fro a two party area.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also it’s often misunderstood to refer to the act of recording itself, when it only relates to permissibility as evidence in court. People can record phone calls wherever. It’s only the usefulness of the recording in court that changes.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago

It also comes into play for civil damages if the recording is published.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Interesting question: what if the call crosses from a two party area to a one party area?

If the call goes from Georgia (one party) to Florida (two party) can the Georgia caller legally record without the Floridian's consent?

Can the Georgia caller then use the legally obtained recording in a Florida courtroom? In a Georgia courtroom? On national news? If both parties are Florida residents but one party drives into Georgia for the duration of the call?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Interesting question: what if the call crosses from a two party area to a one party area?

The party in the two-party area needs to get consent from the other, but the party in the one-party area doesn't.

Anybody who tells you the party in the one-party-consent area needs to get consent because the call crosses jurisdictional boundaries is a totalitarian piece of shit who believes in extraterritorial jurisdiction.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 1 day ago

Like many judges appear to be...

[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

In Portugal the law states any party can record as long it gets consent from the other parties, and those consents can be withdrawn at any time.

[–] Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In finland, you can record any conversation that you are a part of, without asking.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Can you point me to the law that allows that?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

Laws operate by restriction, not allowance. That which is not prohibited is permitted.

The probibitions on recording only apply to third parties. If you are part of the conversation, (or the participants have no expectation of privacy) it is permissible for you to record that conversation.

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[–] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (15 children)

In Europe smartphones have all call recording features disabled. "Because of regulations". So corporations and scammers can record us whenever they wish, bu lt we cannot, even though it would provide us some defence. I thing the 'regulations' here protect the wrong side. Which is surprising, as EU is usually quite decent in consumer protection.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

No. You're wrong.

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[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Americentrism.

That's just the standard in most of EU, two party consent.

Though it's a weird thing where in summer of EU, where legally, not hanging up when it states "calls may be recorded" counts as consent

[–] Technoworcester@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

How can you say that?? Your on the internet and everything is American!

/s

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Depends on state law, but typically they have. There's no wiretap violation unless privacy iexpecteded, you see.

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[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

I don't record my calls, but I take remarkable meticulous notes that I'm happy to call upon should the need arise. If there's a dispute, the company can produce recorded evidence to demonstrate that the notes I've taken were incorrect.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They inform you so that you can retract consent (by hanging up)

[–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The problem is that there's often no alternative means to access the service(s) you need. There should be a way to revoke consent without disconnecting.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

When you are connected with a person, you can often ask for a non-recorded line, though they don’t advertise it. It’s not ideal that your call is recorded until that point, and it’s obviously an extra hassle, which is still a problem.

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[–] rjek@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

At least in the UK, they do.

[–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can they record you without consent where you live?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Single party consent means that you can record yourself, and you can record anything you hear. Your participation in the conversation is your consent.

The only way to revoke your consent is to withdraw from the conversation.

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