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Было бы здорово, если бы вы также указали, какие окончания использовать с вашими местоимениями в прошедшем времени и в прилагательных — «сделал», «сделала», «сделало», или двойную форму «сделал(а)»? Если у вас неологизм — есть ли для него отдельное окончание, или вы обычно берёте средний род?

(for English readers, I'm asking a question along the lines of asking OP to pick between

• ze is blond
• ze are blonde
• ze is blondes
• ze are blond
• ze is blonds

etc. (assuming zir hairs are blond), but in a language with much more difficult conjugation: Russian. Do neopronouns require neoconjugations? if yes, plz provide)

For anyone like me hoping to learn more about neopronouns and how to use them I found these videos helpful!

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Could someone kindly explain to me how these and other similar pronouns work? Do they have some meanings or is it more about how they sound?

I'm from a non-English speaking country, where pronouns other than classic male/female are almost never used due to our language, so I've never encountered them yet.

I don't think they'll make their way to many languages any time soon, but I'm still curious.

Ze/Zir sounds pretty cool. I think that if I were to regularly hear or read others using neopronouns correctly, it would be clear and intuitive to use them myself.

Nobody in my peer group uses neopronouns, so I don't get regular practice. I wish you peace in this.

• I'm she/they

I dont use neopronouns for myself, but as a non-native english speaker, i struggle with reffering to people with neopronouns because i dont know how to properly use them.

About they/them, i dont feel about it in any way offensive, even though i dont use it personally. For me, it is just a universally neutral way to refer to person, if, for example, i dont know their exact pronouns, and for every person that i reffered this way, they are okay with it, including myself.

I wish pronouns weren't related at all to gender, like in Finnish where it's hän, or Turkish where it's o. Imo gender should be no more than an adjective in language, just like "British" "black" or "lower class" is. Thus I'd rather use they/them for everyone, but I will begrudgingly use he/she for people if they request it, since it's so ingrained in the language. But neopronouns aren't as ingrained, so imo this makes things unnecessarily confusing and I'd rather just use they/them for these people

Sorry if that makes me a transphobe

Hey so im pretty sure weve interacted before and im so sorry if i messed up pronouns!

I sometimes go too fast to read the username all the time, but ill be adding a user tag to prevent this in the future. If its big and red i notice lol

Sorry again ❤️❤️

Im just a random dude

But i just find it difficult to remember

And confusing, especially when its ze zir? Never heard that before

And they/them is already used in other contexts (groups)

You will find making up some word to describe you, and then expecting people to remember and use it, will be difficult and you care more than they do

Just my two cents on this subject. I mean no offense. Ive met someone who tried to go with some native language alternative, and nobody picked it up, so he switched to he/him. Thats a term people are familar with, so much easier to get people to use AND remember, in the future

Yes. We do, constantly. We have even been told that folks do not come to lemmy to pay attention to things like pronouns, dissapointingly.

We have our pronouns in our display name and in our profile, but apparently a lot of clients do not show display names nor can access profiles.

Why any would want to use clients missing such basic features is anybeing's guess. However, we imagine it has something to do with what we have been told about why beings use lemmy.

Honestly, I feel you. I might be responsible sometimes for misgendering people.

It's not a will to do so but mostly it becomes hard to remember every person I encounter what are their pronouns and name.

I know it is common courtesy but I'm having a hard time sometimes. So I tend to ask again and try to not misgender but sometimes I fail.

Try me.

Yuuuup. We try to get people more comfortable using them, especially when it comes to conjugating because even we trip up with the proper forms for some of them. It's a lot easier in spaces where you can display your pronouns, especially online where it's harder to miss, but it goes beyond simply being aware of them. Not much else to do on this end of things but ultimately it's all a matter of people being acclimated to them, I keep encouraging folks who use neos to any extent to stick with em so that more and more people can get used to it but yeah it takes tons of patience with others.

- Cass (xe/xem)