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[–] cynar@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I've got a personal theory on this. ADHD and autism don't break the brain, but they do significantly change how it processes information. This, in turn, gives us a significant resistance to broad spectrum propaganda, via incompatibility. It's akin to a windows virus not working on Linux.

It's worth noting that it's not a resistance to propaganda in general, just the type intended for "normal" people. We can still be caught out by targeted efforts. Normally, we aren't worth that effort, but AI and its related work will likely change that.

Basically, we have awesome natural defenses, but don't just rely on them, since they can be bypassed.

[–] SalamiDommie@lemmus.org 1 points 18 hours ago

Public schools are indoctrination machines - Period. Narrative would you feel comfortable with them teaching? Because I guarantee a problem will be found with it.

[–] siravious@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“I pledge allegiance,to the flag, …”

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I was lucky. In school, I had more than one teacher say "y'know, you don't have to say that. Especially if you're from another nation." So I just used the time to do homework late.

[–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My high school homeroom teacher allowed me to stay quiet during the pledge, but still made me stand up and put my hand over my heart. In 11th grade I moved to a more conservative area of the state, but oddly enough they had more students who opted to stay seated and silent, and the teachers let me do the same.

It was around that time that I started feeling like there was something wrong with all the "America's so great!" stuff we had been taught since 1st grade. I completely deprogrammed when I had the opportunity to work alongside people from all over the world, learn more about their culture, their family, become friends. I began to see the world differently, and my perspective shifted as I learned more about the consequences of American policies and interventions that they don't tell you about in the evening news.

So I guess what I'm getting at is that back then, I didn't say the pledge because part of me was beginning to question the reasons why it was (practically) compulsory. These days, I wouldn't say it because I cannot in good conscience support imperialism.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Holly shit. They made you do this through high school. This was only a thing for me In elementary school. We had to sing too.

[–] ContriteErudite@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Core memory unlocked
Oh man, I forgot about the singing!

I remember we were taught several patriotic songs in first and second grades; I distinctly remember "America the Beautiful", "Battle Hymn of the Republic", and "My Country, 'Tis of Thee". Each day the school would choose one of the songs and were forced to sing it immediately after reciting the pledge.

Lol. Funny when they force first amendment violations.

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (7 children)

What kind of propaganda are you guys getting? In my 9th grade American history class they didn't shy away from Native American genocide, police brutality (starting with the whiskey rebellion), and the civil war being about slavery. But that wasnt at a normal school.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Age may play a large role here.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I bet they didn't mention israel. That's completely taboo in the Epstein Empire.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

When I was in elementary school my teacher said it was cool that the natives got pushed off the land and into reservations because we could make better use of the land. The same teacher also handed out worksheets wherein you had to choose the right gender for the right profession.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It all depends on the state. You were in a state that respects education.

In Florida, DeSantis declared that they weren't going to be teaching anything that made white kids ashamed of being white. They don't like kids knowing about Native Americans and Slavery.

[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 day ago

I can't think of anything either. I remember learning about "learning styles", which ended up being debunked.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm 43. We didn't get any of that shit.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well OP does say they didn't pay attention in class lmaooo. My public school teachs all that and it's mandatory education in Illinois

[–] erev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ah see but thats a blue state with the third largest city in the country; I've heard about the education down in Floroda and let me tell you it does not come close to even the worst schools in Chicago.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was thankful enough to have a tandem 7th-8th grade combo of English and History teachers who taught us the value of cognitive awareness. Followed by a high school math teacher that introduced me to "A True History of the United States" because they actually gave a damn. It's far too easy to see that we are the new Roman Empire, but on a speed run.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (21 children)

Eh... 250 years aint a record, but given that the firmware was clearly not changed since then... -C.

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[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I grew up accepting the propaganda wholesale, then at some point when I was around 16, my critical thinking skills suddenly switched on all at once and I was like “Wait a second, this is all some bullshit!” This didn’t seem to be due to any external influence, I think my brain just rebooted.

I think my critical thinking skills were switched on a bit later at 21,

Oh well, better later than never I suppose

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, it happens. I was a little edgy nazi shithead in my early teens. Brain development is crazy not gonna lie. Did a full 180 myself

[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, Same here honestly, I was conservative when I was a teenager and then I became more progressive as I got older

[–] lokalhorst@feddit.org 17 points 2 days ago (30 children)

Honest question, what kind of propaganda do you get fed in school? I don't know much about US schools, but I think you have to salute to the flag and sing your hymn once a week or so (which is really cringe if it is true)?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

i went to public highschool in Texas where our football coach taught finance and history due to teacher shortage.

:D I learned that North Korea killed more people than any other country on earth and, Germans were communists during world war 2

He is kinda special case tho. It's usually textbooks casually hiding facts like segregation.

Florida history textbook initial edition:Rosa Parks showed courage. One day, she rode the bus. She was told to move to a different seat because of the color of her skin. She did not. She did what she believed was right.Second edition:Rosa Parks showed courage. One day, she rode the bus. She was told to move to a different seat. She did not. She did what she believed was right.

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[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

we spend several years learning about all the presidents (knowledge we will never use again), then we briefly gloss over native genocide (who lived happily ever after once Thanksgiving was invented), then slavery ended with the civil war, fascism ended with world wars I and II, then MLK Jr ended racism when he is shot (probably by the FBI, but we weren't told that), then we learn that communism is bad and ended with the cold war

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[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (14 children)

So,... it's like this, yo.

In the US in the 90's and 2000's, it's not as though we were particularly lied to in regards to world history, but when it came to national shit like Black Monday or the Civil Rights movement, it was more-or-less glazed over or certain parts were omitted entirely, or certain historical figures were just given completely different motivations.

"Uh, the south wasn't racist, it was taxes and economics, and such..."

"The Pinkertons? Whoms't've? Never heard of them!"

We'd still get Greece, Rome, Europe, Africa and Asia generally unaltered... with some favoritism to Canada and Mexico, but not when it came to Russia and communism or anything regarding anything that isn't capitalism and man, school hated on Cuba.

Asia was glazed over massively, not in the hiding anything sense, more of a "who cares?" sense. Social Studies/History was almost always US-centric at all times. We learned more about Japan from anime than school.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I went to public school in California from the 90's to the mid 2000's. I generally didn't pay much attention in history class but it was made quite clear to me that the south was historically racist and that people of color all over the US experienced racism of one form or another.

I don’t know much about US schools, but I think you have to salute to the flag and sing your hymn once a week or so

Every day bro. We had to sing the pledge of allegiance.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In middle school, my friends and I would stand like everyone else, but we’d say “One nation, under nothing” (we didn’t believe in God), and change the end to “liberty and justice for some” (or ‘none.’)

I wish I could say we were ahead of the game, but really we were just smartass kids who were resentful that we had to make a stupid pledge every day. I can’t speak for the others in that group (since we lost touch in high school), but I just straight up stopped saying anything at a certain point. I’d stand, no hand over heart (for those outside the US - the pledge is meant to be said with your right hand over your heart. I know, it’s cringe), and just zone out for a time while everyone else droned out the obligatory oath in bored, robotic voices.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

something something

"indivisible"

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