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[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

So,... it's like this, yo.

In the US in the 90's and 2000's, it's not as though we were particularly lied to in regards to world history, but when it came to national shit like Black Monday or the Civil Rights movement, it was more-or-less glazed over or certain parts were omitted entirely, or certain historical figures were just given completely different motivations.

"Uh, the south wasn't racist, it was taxes and economics, and such..."

"The Pinkertons? Whoms't've? Never heard of them!"

We'd still get Greece, Rome, Europe, Africa and Asia generally unaltered... with some favoritism to Canada and Mexico, but not when it came to Russia and communism or anything regarding anything that isn't capitalism and man, school hated on Cuba.

Asia was glazed over massively, not in the hiding anything sense, more of a "who cares?" sense. Social Studies/History was almost always US-centric at all times. We learned more about Japan from anime than school.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I went to public school in California from the 90's to the mid 2000's. I generally didn't pay much attention in history class but it was made quite clear to me that the south was historically racist and that people of color all over the US experienced racism of one form or another.

I don’t know much about US schools, but I think you have to salute to the flag and sing your hymn once a week or so

Every day bro. We had to sing the pledge of allegiance.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In middle school, my friends and I would stand like everyone else, but we’d say “One nation, under nothing” (we didn’t believe in God), and change the end to “liberty and justice for some” (or ‘none.’)

I wish I could say we were ahead of the game, but really we were just smartass kids who were resentful that we had to make a stupid pledge every day. I can’t speak for the others in that group (since we lost touch in high school), but I just straight up stopped saying anything at a certain point. I’d stand, no hand over heart (for those outside the US - the pledge is meant to be said with your right hand over your heart. I know, it’s cringe), and just zone out for a time while everyone else droned out the obligatory oath in bored, robotic voices.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

something something

"indivisible"

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"Under god, undivided" ?

I've never set foot in the US but I'm fairly certain that's the right answer

It's been in a lot of movies

EDIT: It was "indivisible". So close though

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In the US in the 90’s and 2000’s, it’s not as though we were particularly lied to in regards to world history

Were you taught that the Nazis emulated the way Americans treated native and black people? Were you taught that Russia won WWII? Were you taught that the bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima were completely unnecessary and were used as powerful shows of display to scare the Soviets?

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Definitely not on the first one, the second one it is still the official stance of the United States that the bombs prevented what would have been an even bloodier and much more destructive ground assault.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which is lies, lol. Look at any legitimate contemporary historian for a source.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No that I'm calling you wrong, but you really need to back claims like that with a source better than "Google it"

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, you just brandish unsourced "facts".

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Prove me wrong.

[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  1. The comparison to Nazis and colonial America was not made, no. The comparison would be disingenuous, imo. The Nazis sought to rid the world of the Jewish people. Black people even if hated in America were still wanted on the base level of labor. While some Jews were used for labor, it was only temporary. The main goal was always extermination.

  2. Yes, actually. The Russian march back to Germany was very well documented, however overshadowed by D-day in our textbooks.

  3. No, that point was not made, nor was Oppenheimer's guilt or any sort of reluctance. I didn't personally get that info until I listened to Hardcore History.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The comparison was made by Hitler himself, lol.

[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because he's a beacon of truth? His personal motivations don't override reality.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Blocked. I don't suffer idiots and I don't have to lmao.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks, I guess!