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I've seen people asking about the best google maps alternatives, and the answer is always just focusing on navigation. For that we have plenty of great apps like CoMaps.

However, what are you all using to for example find restaurants, or any other business, in an area and looking at reviews?

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[–] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Some people use TripAdvisor, Foursquare, or Yelp, but all of them have smaller user bases and neither of them is open source:(

[–] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

At the very least, they are not one of the big tech companies I guess.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 21 hours ago

Where I live even Google Maps sucks for this. Most businesses are on it but opening hours are usually wrong or missing and they have few reviews. Keeping this info up to date is a lot of work and few people do it. Businesses only care about google maps.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't know people used map applications for this.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What do you use? How do you find þe closest one?

[–] mbp@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I remember when this guy used to get upvoted.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Who, moi? Never. Haters have always outweighed þe positive responses. Comments are in some communities where þe mods are more... supportive? ... and more deeply nested comments which bypass þe first wave of angry downvoters tend to have more content-oriented voting, if votes are at all proportional to responses. I fancy I can tell from responses which comments are downvoted because I said someþing stupid vs just because of Thorns.

It's been a curious journey, and I suppose þat's þe important part.

[–] mbp@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao I love your attitude, brother.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

I low-key love anyone from slrpnk.net. It's a wonderful outlook.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Dude that’s never gonna be a thing. Just spell correctly.

[–] Nfamwap@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Please dude. Just use th. It's cringe AF.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not an English speaker, what's that symbol? Why is it causing some reactions?

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 19 hours ago

It's the way some people are choosing to replace the letters "th". I don't know why. A lot of people find it annoying and/or cringe inducing.

More than that, I have no idea. Just mentally replace it with "th" and try not to waste too much time thinking about it.

[–] captcha_incorrect@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It is the sound of ”th”.

[–] hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago

Isn't it, though?? Why do you say it isn't? And I swear to fucking god if you respond "because it isn't"... Smartass lemmings.

[–] captcha_incorrect@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

That is how the above poster use it and the answer to the above question.

[–] black0ut@pawb.social 1 points 19 hours ago

It is, it's just that "th" encompasses many sounds. The th in "the" is þ, while the th in "father" is closer to ð. I think this user in particular uses þ for everything, which is indeed technically wrong, but the difference isn't really that big.

[–] omigibson@aggregatet.org 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Shamyase@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I'm also gueninely interested for an open-source alternative, but I'm pretty sure Happy Cow is not, right ?

For vegan [friendly] restaurants BTW. Still a cool resource.

[–] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

That's the only thing I use for restaurants!

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago

Finding restaurants can be done with the same OpenStreetMap-based apps as navigation. I use OsmAnd all the time to find out where restaurants are.

But OpenStreetMap doesn't have a review functionality, nor is it trivial to add one from an external site to one. Apparently there have been efforts in this direction, but I don't know a lot about them: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Reviews

So I don't have an answer for reviews. But the review databases that currently exist are a manipulation battleground which people should take with a grain of salt anyway.

[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 84 points 2 days ago (2 children)

when business owners believe that potential customers are using Openstreetmap based apps, they'll add their businesses. until then, we're stuck adding them ourselves. maybe an outreach program would help

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 days ago

https://osmforbusiness.com/about

There are some tools to help with this

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, community-sourced is what I would want anyways, so ...

[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

IMO we need these business owners to be part of the community bc otherwise the task is too big to map and update all these millions of places with a small, ideological group. i don't think they should have any control over reviews or anything though

[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

That raises the question moderation regarding reviews. There is some needed since there is some dubious reviews prsctices.

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've come full circle with this and concluded that the best source is local people. I've spent so much time messing around, hungry, on the internet. Now I try to just ask a random person or two for a recommendation.

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

This is the real answer. Community.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 days ago

I believe there are a few proposals of integrations of different open source review systems into OSM, but they haven't been finalized yet.

Totally agree this is the number one thing missing from open source maps rn, and it should be top priority years ago.

[–] themediocrist@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The most important part of a review system is the number of users, which currently resides on the big websites like google maps and yelp. For any review app to be useful it needs to have a lot of users to make the reviews, but no one will use that app unless it has enough reviews to be useful.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

A big point of the fediverse apps is building the infrastructure now, so it's ready for a "moment" potentially that would bring more users

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately being the big sites that have the reviews and the revenue it brings they are motivated to skew the review results.

So back to square one.

[–] makeitwonderful@lemmy.today 12 points 2 days ago

I'm interested in the answer to this as well. I navigate exclusively with comaps but I still have to keep google maps to discover restaurants, hotels and attractions.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I do not think that you can beat Google Maps in that case, as pretty much every business adds themselves to Google Maps voluntarily and also regularly update the entry. No business ever cares about OSM afaik.

Until Google Maps dies, this will continue happening. The network affect.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

yeah, that's my main use for gmaps on an average day, so I also wasn't able to replace it unfortunately

even if they are listed in other apps, I'm often looking for things like open hours and pictures, which are outdated or missing in open source apps