Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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"Our CEO's opinion has no bearing on how we will act"
It's not about the Nazi himself, it's about him using our money to further Nazi goals.
Yeah, but our money is going into his pocket and thus funding Nazis, so that's hardly relevant to the issue.
I'm so proud of some people
But he profits from mullvad and your purchase contributes to these policies...
I run a Tailscale network on my devices and I use Mullvad exit nodes, I have found that to be an extremely frictionless setup especially running on my family’s iOS devices. What are my alternatives now, I can’t seem to find anything that is as easy/practical for my setup and for non-technical users.
I moved to ivpn you could check that out
Same here. Just recently set this up. Bummed about the news.
I’m all over the other recent thread telling people there isn’t one. Especially for what you describe there isn’t one.
I have used mullvad in a similar way and can’t recommend anything else for it.
I can recommend the book aesthetics of resistance to help apply balm to the soul of a person who wants to switch.
"aesthetics"? Wheat and chaff, bro.
If there's an alternative that doesn't empower a nazi, although a bit less convenient, it's a no-brainer switch.
It’s a famous historical novel about the stuff people did in europe around the time of ww2.
The book is kinda big and complex but one of the things that stuck out to me is all the ways people’s different beliefs were compromised in order to accomplish different goals sometimes as imperative as survival.
It’s a pretty good book.
Anyway, like I said, there is not an alternative. If a person doesn’t actually need a bulletproof vpn then some other services might work if that person is careful about using them.
What a shitshow. After their blog post, anyone who didn't know, now they know. LOL. Majestic performance XD.
I'll bet he's playing the long game, support party that limits expression of free ideas, more VPN users.
That made me laugh
Any suggestions for a similarly priced, similar quality alternative for windows and Android? I tried Nord before I switched to Mulvad and it was worse, don't want to go back to that
In which ways did you find Nord worse? I found Nord faster than Mullvad and better at spoofing my location in different countries for streaming services.
Proton VPN is probably the first other one that springs to mind as offering privacy comparable to Mullvad. Its CEO was criticized last year for making approving comments about some things Trump was doing in the USA, but it was mostly about opportunities to challenge big tech companies, and he claimed not to be a MAGA supporter in general. There was no evidence, as far as I know, of him donating to right-wing organizations.
Proton vpn is pretty good, except on Linux where the client is horrendous. The Killswitch is very unreliable there. When it fails, it sends your machine right back to the internet instead of blocking the connection completely like it's supposed to.
I haven't found an alternative that works well for me in Linux other than mullvad unfortunately. And I really don't want to give them my money.
I sent proton a nastygram but they don't seem to care about the Linux client at all.
Also both their gui and cli apps have dependencies on Gnome, and installing gnome fucked up my remote login setup. It's insane to me that even the cli relies on gnomes keychain
Proton vpn is pretty good, except on Linux where the client is horrendous. The Killswitch is very unreliable there. When it fails, it sends your machine right back to the internet instead of blocking the connection completely like it’s supposed to.
I have a paid proton email level, which gives me (I think?) one active VPN tunnel to use.
I tried it out and it works fine with the standard openvpn client on linux. I always set up my own killswitch, which is easy with ufw. You block all traffic except allow the VPN interface and IP. Bulletproof.
But what I really want is wireguard! I didn't know I wanted it, til I tried it. It's a lot nicer IMO than openvpn.
Hmm, maybe I can try the ufw approach then. Wish I knew about that before I installed gnome. Thanks for the tip.
YW!
Here's what mine looks like, but I'm redacting the tunnel IPs and port numbers. You might have to add an allow for DNS in there depending on your VPN,
xx.xx.xx.xx xxxxx ALLOW OUT Anywhere <-- the VPN endpoint IP and port
Anywhere ALLOW OUT Anywhere on XXXXXXX <-- the interface name
Anywhere DENY OUT Anywhere <-- block all but the VPN tunnel
I don't know much about these things, but if Proton uses standard protocols it ought to be possible to connect without using their own client.
It can be done with wireguard but that doesn't solve the killswitch issue. I'd have to write my own script or something.
The speed was the main thing for me with Nord. Very slow a lot of the time. And I didn't like the weird/scammy feeling renewal prices. I found Mulvad much smoother in general. Nord might be better now, though. That was my experience from about 7 years ago
I'm trying out ivpn, and find it a viable alternative so far (comparing a Mullvad Wireguard config vs. ivpn app, on resp. Linux & Android)
The critical part is: how many supposed "quality" alternatives have been proven not to do any logging? Mullvad has been proven to be solid. They were raided and had jolly little to hand over to authorities on their customers.
How many of the other VPN services can say that about themselves?
I've found Nord to be good, ther Linux support has also picked up. I've never used Mullvad though
There are not any.
If your use case doesn’t prioritize your own safety then tell me what it is and I can help you figure something out.
I've seen airVPN thrown out before, not a huge fan of their UX though
It’s also very slow to the point of being unusable.
I’ve been using airVPN for years and have never had speed issues. I will agree with the other comment on their UI/UX though, it’s straight out of the late 90’s/early 00’s. But once you’ve got it setup you don’t ever have to deal with their website.