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Friday’s appeals court ruling in the New Jersey case goes further than a July 2024 ruling from a federal judge, who said that the state’s ban on AR-15s specifically was unconstitutional but upheld the provision barring larger magazines.

The third US circuit court of appeals said on Friday in its opinion that the state’s ban on all semiautomatic rifles it deems to be “assault firearms” and its restriction on “large capacity ammunition magazines” were unconstitutional.

New Jersey’s attorney general, Jennifer Davenport, a Democrat whose office defended the law, told the Associated Press that the decision is “as unfortunate as it is legally incorrect”.

"Gotta maximize the body count of school children"

-These judges, probably

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 49 points 2 weeks ago

I, for one, am stoked about the renewed opportunity to buy (or make) more effective weapons for fighting fascists with.

[–] gukleszl4hs48ughgxhr5xgd@fedia.io 13 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Civilian AR-15s aren't assault rifles. AR doesn't stand for assault rifle...

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] Triumph@fedia.io 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And those modifications are already illegal for any semi auto firearm.

It's just a 5.56 (usually) semi auto rifle. There are others that aren't AR-15s.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (23 children)

And those modifications are already illegal for any semi auto firearm.

The modification being illegal isn't much of a deterent to mass murderers.

The only real effective way to limit their scope of killing is to limit their access to the underlying tool: the AR15. Someone's scope of killing by modifying a 9mm handgun with extended grip =/= modifying an AR15 with extended grip. They differ in all sorts of capabilities: accuracy, capacity, recoil, etc.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (15 children)

If everything that could be used to kill someone was made illegal, we wouldn't have very many things.

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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This same argument is used to kill right to repair. Banning potential crime is always bad.

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[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Damn

The legality of something doesn't make it effective.

So

We should make Y illegal and that'll be effective.

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[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What if we removed the motivation to kill people at all? Or is that just impossible?

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[–] Ostrakon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They're already violating the law making these mods dude. I doubt they would stop at legal acquisition.

Bump stocks are absolute ass for any sort of accuracy, and should absolutely be banned. Perhaps the worst way to enable full auto on any gun.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It'd be hilarious if a bunch of black people, lgbtq and immigrants started picking these up in droves and then they suddenly revisited this topic.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Gun control, particularly in the past, has been enacted for racist reasons. Yet one more reason to be excited the rights of the people were upheld today.

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[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Gun bans started when thr Black Panthers armed up and patrolled their neighborhoods to protect people from cops.

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[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Glad that the constitution still matters.

Now let's add the worker's bill of rights to the constitution so that the material conditions of society are improved and mass shootings are even less common, and suicides decrease.

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[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Ok, 2a people that enjoy this access to tools that can spray bullets, how can we stop the mass killings with firearms? Because I'm ok with letting you have your toys if you can solve that problem.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The vast majority of shootings aren't related to schools, and could be solved by the following measures to make society less hostile, pushing less people to violence:

  • UBI
  • Free Healthcare
  • Free College
  • End war on drugs

These two would help cut-down on domestic abuse and kids finding guns:

  • Red Flag Laws
  • Safe lockup laws

Furthermore, most school shooters are dudes under 30 buying way more guns than they can afford via credit card knowing they won't have to pay the debt. So don't allow people under 30 to buy rifles with credit cards.

Assault rifle bans make no sense. Most states with bans consider a standard AR-15 build to be an assault rifle but not a mini-14.

They both shoot the same bullets, just as fast, with the same magazine capacities available. But one looks like an old hunting rifle, while the other looks modern and scary.

The things that make a gun considered an assault rifle have nothing to do with how powerful it is, and more to do with how easily you can clean and repair it, or how nice the ergonomics are.

Its literally a giant waste of political clout designed to piss off the right people.

[–] Clam_Cathedral@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Fantastic way to address the issues and the explanation of what makes a lot of the so called "common sense" gun legislation so problematic.

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[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Like every civilized country does. Limit who can get lead dispensers (gun law knowledge test, practical exam, psych eval, etc.) and making owners responsible for securing them. Most shootings happen with stolen or otherwise illegal hole punchers (either child from parents or just stolen, e.g. from car). Where I live, you could get jail time for leaving a gun unsupervised in a car or not locked in your home. Or at least would never be allowed to own one again.

But the courts struck that down as well and there is basically no hope of fixing this shit, e.g. via constitutional amendment, cause too many people are busy pushing laws that only harass lawful owners like assault rifle bans (newsflash, a shotgun kills kids just as good as an AR) and many people on the 2A side are now in defense mode instinctively pushing back on any gun laws, even reasonable ones.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just wish people on the 2A side would actually doing something with it, even if it was just showing up to protests in numbers à la Black Panthers. All it’s done, from this outside perspective, is allow a huge number of people to cosplay as rugged militia rebels but who, far more often than not, just end up sucking boot for their nearest tyrant.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, yes. Though do remember that the bootlickers are selection bias. They show up cause they are unlikely to face consequences. There probably are plenty of 2A people who hate the current situation but are not willing to risk the consequences of loosing their life/freedom over it yet. At least I really hope there are.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (19 children)
  1. Target gangs holistically. Change drug laws to limit their income potential. Target all levels for prosecution rather than primarily the top.
  2. Overhaul mental health laws. This is pretty hard to do. It needs to be easier to get someone committed against their will than it currently is, but it also needs to be possible to recover rights after being committed. The institutions that used to do this need to be recreated with better safeguards against abuse of patients.
  3. Increase exposure to guns at pretty much every age. This is more about accidental shootings. Handling guns in a safe environment reduces the curiosity if kids find one, shooting classes age junior high or high school age would also help reinforce this.
  4. Reduce gun free zones or require places that ban guns to accept security liability.
  5. Enforce existing laws, a significant number of shootings have warnings that were ignored by negligent or apathetic administrators or police. Both taking actions that are generally available and legal now, and ensuring accountability for failures would help.
[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (11 children)

The fact that you never once said “attack poverty since its reduction directly and drastically drops crime rates and improves mental health conditions” is pretty telling. Always about reactive punishment with you weirdos, never about proactive targetting of the underlying issues, and certainly never in any of the ways that we’ve seen to be actually helpful and productive.

I used to have my license here in Canada, I think guns are really cool and a day on the range is lovely, but they aren’t at all worth the damage and lives lost. Most people who really want them use the same kinda logic as I did when I was a child to try to get my mom to buy me a Wii, thinking I was clever.

At least point 5 is on the money, even if 3 and 4 are insane.

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[–] Klox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I'd be fine with this if the people responsible for these guaranteed future outcomes were held to account. Until we have a justice system that reflects fair penalties on poor leadership, we're fucked.

[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Good. Hopefully Illinois will follow

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

And Washington and California.

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

"Gotta maximize the body count of school children"-These jusges, probably

"Because bans on AR-15s magically stopped school shootings in the U.S."

  • Pro fascism Bootlickers, probably
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