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Can I copy your homework? (quokk.au)
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cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/c/sigh_fi/p/1040544/can-i-copy-your-homework

While the characters in early episodes of Stargate SG-1 often referred to a group of mysterious aliens by using terms like "the gate-builders", I believe the first time those aliens were referred to as "the Ancients" was in S2E16 "The Fifth Race" in 1998. As far as I can tell, the first time the Ancients were brought up on Farscape was S1E16 "A Human Reaction" in 1999. Even if you assume the idea was planned from the very beginning of Farscape, the first episode still aired in 1999, months after the Ancients had been established in Stargate.

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[–] Thyazide@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

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[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 4 points 13 hours ago

YOTZ!

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

Okay but Ben Browder and Claudia Black were Farscape first 🔥🔥

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I mean...

"The Ancients" is a pretty common name for a civilization so ancient but advanced enough that all that's left is technology that might as well be magic.

Especially when you get into sci-fi with universal translators, because in real life it just seems like there's variations because everyone is saying similar things just in different languages.

Since each culture just calls them "ancients" it doesn't get treated as a proper noun, meaning it always gets translated into the English "ancients" for people with translators which include the viewers.

Even in SG1, they seemed to understand that it wasn't a proper noun and more a descriptor than a title.

Obviously "the ancients" in any media never call themselves that, unless it's some timely whimey Dr Who stuff where the names they choose somehow defined the English language...

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Even in SG1, they seemed to understand that it wasn't a proper noun and more a descriptor than a title.Obviously "the ancients" in any media never call themselves that

I seem to remember there was some artifact or something inscribed with the words "property of the Ancients" (or some Ancient phrase to that effect), illustrating that they did literally call themselves that after abandoning Atlantis.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

I guess it depends on how far after that was?

They were called Alterans when living in Atlantis (Ori elsewhere), if the inscription was made centuries or millenia later by the last vestiges of their culture (like someone who spent 100k years in a stasis pod) then they might refer to their own culture by the contemporary name of ancients?

Maybe the writers were just lazy by that point?

All were really doing is rationalizing what they made up and then only what made it to the show anyways.

For bonus points:

I had to check the wiki to be sure and this is the quote:

Well, it stands to reason they weren't always called the Ancients." ―Daniel Jackson[src]

https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient

[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Not surprised! If you take a glance at imdb, you'll notice there is some overlap in cast/crew/production. Verified clanker snippets below.


[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Nevermind that the final seasons of Stargate are basically Farscape.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Fargate

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

There are a lot of copies of that paper floating around...

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

One's a good show and one is imperialist air force propaganda.

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You can just block this community instead of commenting to complain about the show whenever you see it mentioned.

[–] TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

Thanks for mentioning this! I never did watch Faracape so I thought this was just a joke I didn't get.