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I'd love to hear about your favorite concept or idea you've read about or seen in scifi media.

My personal favorite is the Conjoiner Drive out of the Revelation Space series. These ship drives are dual drives on either side of a lighthugger and have a living being inside the drives to act as a supercomputer, which holds a wormhole open inside the drives. The wormhole links far in the past to the big-bang and uses the energy from the big-bang for propulsion.

In most scifi I've come across wormholes are used for FTL travel, and I thought this was such a unique and creative use of a wormhole it has stuck with me for years after reading about it.

So what are your favorite devices or ideas that have come out of scifi media?

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[–] TheDarkestShark@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

I started reading a new series called The Captives War, same author as The Expanse. The book starts on a non-earth planet where humans have a seemingly similar level of science and tech as today. They discuss knowing that this planet is not their home world because they live along side another evolutionary tree but they do not know how they got there.

Its not really the main focus of the story so it hasn't really been explained yet, I only read the first book so far and the third of the trilogy is not yet released. Some fan theories think its a connection to the end of The Expanse book series, where spoiler spoiler the network of portals connecting 1000s of world's is destroyed stranding millions of people on 100s of worlds across the universe.

I just really like the concept of humans industrializing on an alien world and how they got there was simply lost to time. The fan theory is also partially why I like it but I'm sure it will have a different explanation.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Just give me neon lights in the rain and I'm already happy.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I'm boring and I really like rotating megastructures. I think what I find fascinating is they're feasible for us to make IRL if we somehow figure out refining on the moon and mass drivers (ignoring the economics too lol) since they use conventional materials even for relatively large ones.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Elite Dangerous's Frame Shift Drive having both modes of operation with the standard Alcubierre drive which allows you to do FTL by contracting spacetime around your ship (hence frame shift) or near instant system travel by creating a wormhole to travel through.

The catch is that while supercruise has been around for a long time and works just as you expect, the wormhole hyperjump is new reverse engineered tech by captured Thargoid technology.

The drive uses mass to guide the ship to the destination, meaning it can only work by locking onto primary stars of a system. You can only make wormhole jumps between systems but must use supercruise to get to where you actually need within the system.

Also that mass affects its operation:

Being close to any mass will affect the FSD charge time. While being next to a heavier ship will merely make it charge slower, the FSD will get mass-locked should the ship be next to something extremely massive (station, asteroid field, etc.) and will be unable to charge at all.

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[–] khannie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The evolved species in Adrian Tchaikovsky's "children of time" series. So much thought and detail went into them and he's a fantastically descriptive storyteller. His command of language is superb.

I don't want to spoiler too much beyond that but it's easily my favourite series.

"We're going on an adventure"

[–] vgnmnky@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, especially the first book, thought that was excellent. Less so for me the third one, and I haven't read the fourth one yet.

[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A couple from from Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series have always stood out to me:

The Infinite Improbability Drive is used to propel a spaceship by means of increasing improbability to infinity. It ramps up improbability at your departure point until you are literally everywhere at once since everything is possible, then ramps it back down leaving you at your destination. The offshoot being a whole lot of highly improbable other things happen in the vicinity.

The Total Perspective Vortex is a machine that upon entering gives one a perfect sense of perspective of the entirety of existence (which it derives from a piece of cake.) No one emerges sane. It was invented by a guy to get his wife to stop nagging him.

[–] jaycifer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I really like sci fi settings where there is one major leap of physics that has ramifications across the rest of the setting.

Mass Effect is my prime example with the discovery of mass effect fields that allow the manipulation of how much mass things have. This is the basis for local interstellar travel after using a mass relay, as the mass of the ship is reduced for acceleration greater than the speed of light. Artificial gravity is created by increasing the mass of the floor. Guns work by electromagnetically accelerating bullets through a reduced mass field for greater acceleration, while shields work by emitting repulsive mass effect fields.

In The Expanse, the only technological breakthrough that doesn’t feel like a natural extension of modern technology is the Epstein Drive. The only thing it does is make propulsion engines fuel efficient enough that they can burn nonstop between destinations, which allows a ship to constantly accelerate to its destination instead of reaching a maximum velocity then floating the rest of the way there. It cuts down travel times between planets from months/years to weeks, and allows the society presented to exist.

[–] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Anne Leckie’s Translators. Aliens so alien that the only way we can have any shred of common ground is by them taking a few humans and rebuilding them specifically to be their ambassadors, with interesting results.

[–] ashenone@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Is this from Translation State? That's what came up when I searched Anne leckie translators, but sounds like something I'd enjoy.

Have you read Embassytown? It has some funky linguistics going on that sounds like it might be up your alley

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Translation State is a standalone book in her Imperial Radch universe, which includes the Ancillary Justice trilogy, which is a great series. I highly recommend it.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Uplift Series is a gem. Copied directly from Wiki because it's succinct yet thorough:

The Five Galaxies are filled with alien races, all of whom were "uplifted" into sentience by another race through the use of directed breeding. As "payment" for being made sentient, the uplifted races are subservient to their uplifters for a period of time. All existing races have reached sentience through this process, and follow a common evolution in which the races become free of their uplifters, enter a period of independent power, and then fade and eventually disappear.

The arrival of a human ship at a populated star upsets the established races as humanity reached sentience on their own. This had been believed to be impossible, nothing of the sort is known in the eons-old galactic library. This leads to great arguments among the alien powers. Humanity begins to uplift other species on Earth, including chimpanzees and dolphins, but does not demand subservience.

[–] edralzar@feddit.fr 5 points 2 days ago

sounds interesting !

but does not demand subservience

that's the fictional part right there I guess :)

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[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love the dying earth trope. Its earth, but millions if not billions of years after present day. I love thinking about what the humanity of today might leave to be discovered by whatever comes next. I think the first real exposure I had to it in media was that Artificial Intelligence movie from 2001. Its been around in fiction a lot longer, but that was the first time I really "got" it. Its so neat to me to think about how an alien (or a distantly removed human) might interpret the present day.

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago

N.K. Jemisin (mentioning her again here) did it really well in Fifth Season. Implied-to-be-future-Earth that is tectonically unstable, and constantly suffering from eruptions, earthquakes, and acid rain.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is a bit of a general one, but I have a fondness for very large space structures. A number of my favorite scifi stories take the premise of "exploring a (usually abandoned or tech-regressed) alien megastructure".

Dyson spheres and ringworlds and stellar engines and the like are the obvious candidates, but honestly I like smaller (but still huge) ideas like oneill cylinder colonies just as much, because what I like in them is a function of both size and how close to understood physics they follow, and the latter tend to be easier to make plausible.

There's a certain sense of inspiration that comes of someone describing something almost incomprehensibly huge, explaining that it is designed by intelligent entities, and then justifying it with enough real science as to convince you that something at least somewhat like it really could exist, someday, or maybe already does somewhere out in the vastness of the universe.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

I think my favorite megastructure is the shell world.

The idea is that you take a geologically "dead" world (no mantle movement / tectonic drift like earth) and start excavating a big underground space, with the aim of adding another 'level' to the world below the surface level (with periodic pillars to hold up the ceiling). The rock from that excavation could then be transported up to the surface to form another level above that (using nanotech assemblers or what have you). Rinse and repeat until you have a bunch of nested shells.

Each 'ceiling' could be covered in a light field that replicates the sky, including sunlight. The spaces would be large enough to have their own weather, so that wouldn't need to be faked. The levels would need to be actively cooled though. So the support pillars would need to have coolant tubes in them and the actual surface would need to be covered in radiators.

Now, imagine a structure like that which has broken down and fallen into disrepair. Some or all of those levels could be dark. A dead ecosystem and ruins of a civilization entombed in an artificial underworld. Or maybe the displays still work in a few places. A few isolated pools of light supporting the last plant life, which herds grazing animals have to migrate between periodically to avoid exhausting their food supply. And ambush predators evolved to wait in the dark until something gets close.

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[–] nis@feddit.dk 7 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I can't remember what book it came from, maybe one of Peter F. Hamiltons, but portals was a thing. So naturally the superrich had houses where rooms were not on the same planet. The doors between the rooms looked normal, but was portals to the next room somewhere else.

Especially the toilet tickled me. That was situated on an open raft on a deserted ocean covered planet.

[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is indeed Hyperion by Dan Simmons. Hamilton had really cool use of portals in the Salvation series, though. Among other things, they could:

  • Make people travel (and indeed have distributed houses as well),
  • Source of free energy by placing one end of the portal close to the sun,
  • Solution for garbage by placing one end of the portal into outer space,
  • Geoengineering, for example, by placing one end of the portal above the Australian desert, and feeding it icebergs from the other end.

My favourite use was a protagonist placing one end of a portal on Earth, and smuggling the other onto a penal colony to rescue a prisoner.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

For me the wildest aspect of the Hyperion portals was that there was essentially only one portal. Hyperdimensional godlike artificial super-intelligences swept the portal across each doorway like some sort of cosmic lighthouse, mimicking the theory that there only exists a single electron in the universe that travels backwards and forwards in time to be every electron for everything everywhere all and once. Also, those articlfical intelligences shared their environs with other older beings referred to as "Lions and tigers and bears."

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 2 days ago (8 children)

my favorite trope that i dont see enough of in movies is realistic galactic travel and all the tech that would require.. travel to another star system.. usually multi-generational attempts. feels like there is a lot of this in books.

you often see a brief glimpse, or some hand waiving with hibernation techniques. not much feels real.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The issue with multigenerational stuff in movies is that you would need a new cast for each generation. Foundation series is for example very hard to adapt and they diverged from the books to make things more convenient by having the emperor clone himself and cryosleep. I think currently it's very hard to get a series through that requires people to pay attention when they're literally on their phones while watching.

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[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Speaking of Alastair Reynolds, concept of Pattern Jugglers - benign algae-like pools that oscillate in strange image-like patterns and can physically connect, read, and modify human brains. A person entering the Pattern Juggler could experience someone else's life, temporarily gain skills or knowledge, or... die.

In Ursula LeGuin's Left Hand Of Darkness, I love the idea of society without war. There is still violence and murder, but fighting on someone else's behalf must be viewed as incredibly absurd and unacceptable.

Department Of Truth comics are based around the idea "what if what we believe becomes true?". So cryptids, UFOs, and conspiracies exist because enough people believe in them.

The depth and mechanics of Orogenes in N.K. Jemisin's Fifth Season / Broken Earth. It's not just "I cast frost", it's heat and energy manipulation, with sense, direction, and geometry.

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[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In Doctor who spin-off media there exists a voodoo time-travelling cult called faction paradox. They wear bones and skulls. To obtain these they find a species, hunt them, then go back in time and prevent that species from ever having existed in the first place

So they’re wearing the real bones of creatures who never evolved and never existed

That’s pretty cool

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The book writing technique of the D'ni from Myst. It was not magic, it was essentially math and virtual reality. It just was in hand written books you could enter by placing your hand on a window instead of walking into a big room like the holodecks of Star Trek.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Okay, absolutely not realistic, but one of my favorites is XANA and Lyoko from Code Lyoko. XANA an AI contained in a nuclear powered supercomputer and is evil. Lyoko is a virtual world within the computer and the only way to stop it. Basically, a group of students at a nearby school have to head over to an abandoned factory where the supercomputer is located and go virtualize themselves into the digital world in order to guide someone who can stop XANA attacks.

XANA is a pretty unrealistic AI villain since it can take control of non-electronic things, control gasses, and even control living creatures. It's a deadly menace that in one episode turned lamp posts into antigravity devices. That kind of unrealistic, yet terrifying AI villain because of just how dangerous it is.

Always fun to come up with horrifying ways that XANA could destroy the world if the main characters ever failed. Or if it was real.

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[–] ash@piefed.ca 2 points 2 days ago

A tardis from Dr who. It's a living spaceship + time machine.

It also has some insane features like:

  1. It's bigger on the inside. In fact it has infinite rooms and storage.

  2. It also has access to all knowledge across time.

  3. It can instantly translate all languages telepathically. So everything you hear and see will automagically be in your language.

  4. It can take any form physically. On both the inside and outside. It has a chameleon circuit which makes it blend perfectly into the surroundings.

It's said that it's destiny to be chosen by a tardis. It reads your thoughts and takes you where you want to go or where you are needed.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My current favorite topic is the idea of a world ark, a self-contained world adrift in space containing the remnants of life from a doomed world, and the inhabitants aren't aware of it. Intetestingly it has been featured in two different games: SOMA and Genshin Impact. I'm currently working on a TTRPG campaign within such a world.

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I've been thinking of an idea like this for a while. A bubble of stars and planets preserved from a dying universe, either doomed to drift the void for eternity or perhaps lucky enough to stumble into a new existence. Either way, I imagine people on worlds with a countable number of stars in the sky. Think of it as almost the same as a world arc, but on a local cluster scale instead of planetary.

[–] Monte_Crisco@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t know if this is the same or at least similar, but I’ve always been fascinated by the idea of a generation starship that is moving toward the universe either toward another planet, in search of another planet, or simply as an indefinitely mobile home. It’s wild to imagine generations being born and living on the starship without having any real understanding of the place that humans came from. Stories of Earth would start to seem like wild folklore and mythology rather than actual human history.

Eventually, some generations may become angry that the decision to live on this starship was made by other people many generations before them, and now everyone on the starship is cursed to live under that decision. Was the starship navigation designed so that people may one day change the course? Or perhaps enormous safeguards were put into place to ensure that the ship kept going toward the initial objective because all other options were decidedly much much worse for everyone.

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If you haven't read his books, Stephen Baxter has at least a couple of good explorations of long journey ships.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's so hard to choose just one. Relevan to OP's post is a part of Revelation Space where someone is pushed into a long elevatr shaft on a lighthugger, and she uses the Conjoiner engines to stop her fall relative to the ship, and ends up beating her assailant to death with the floor and ceiling as she adjusted the ship speed back and forth at 10g.

In Adrian Taichovsky's "Alien Clay", there is a planet inhabited by symbionts. Everything is symbiotic with everything else. You'll have a creature, but it's made up of a critter that can digest food, a critter that can see, a critter that can move, a critter that can defend itself, etc.

Neal Asher's "Polity" books depict a future where AI has taken over, and it's a good thing, because humans are such murderous evil dipshits.

"A World Out Of Time" had a guy who was frozen, woke up in the future, was forced into becoming a bussard ramjet pilot, and his attempt to get away from this situation landed him in another, weirder situation. There was a weapon mentioned in this book that would make you wish for death. "If you lie to me, you will take your own life. When I let you."

The Well World, divided up into hexagons, each hex having an entirely different climate, ecology, and technological rules.

Another thing I like is all the various propulsion methods that different authors come up with. Conjoiner engines, is just one example. Niven wrote about a type of hyperspace that moves at exactly one speed, (Or another, faster speed) and looking outside the ship will drive you mad. Alderson drives work instantly, but you have to be in exactly the right spot for it to work. The rest of the time you're stuck with fusion rockets accelerating as fast as the humans on board can stand.

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Neal Asher’s “Polity” books depict a future where AI has taken over, and it’s a good thing, because humans are such murderous evil dipshits.

Effing Neal Asher. The Polity books are just "The Culture is too woke, so I made the libertarian version and my bad guys are cardboard cutouts of conservative stereotypes of liberals and anarchists lol."

I fuckin' can't stand that guy.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I noticed that sort of thing appearing in his later novels.

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[–] elvith@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One thing that absolutely stuck with me as an idea was the plot premise of the short story The Road Not Taken by Harry Turtledove. In this story not only is FTL travel by gravity manipulation possible, but also very very easy to discover. It's so easy that many aliens discovered it early on and then their progress on technology is basically halted. So humankind is a very advanced civilization because we never discovered FTL travel which led to our advanced technology. Then one day one of the "prehistoric" alien races try to conquer the earth and can't grasp what they're up against.

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[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Wormholes always kinda rubbed me wrong in sci-fi. They're always depicted in a way that screams fantasy, not science, with only one exception that comes to mind, which was Interstellar's depiction of a wormhole as a sphere, even taking the time to explain why it looks that way.

The only got it half right though, since as soon as they enter the sphere it's straight back to the fantasy BS with the blue tunnel. That scene could have been a really cool transition of entering the one 'side' of the sphere while exiting the other simultaneously. Cut from the crew's perspective seeing lens-like distortion of the stars, to an external view of the ship moving into the sphere.

I kinda feel like that's how they intended to do that scene, with the whole buildup about the sphere, but decided to throw a nod to oldschool science fantasy for some reason.

Oh well. They got it half right, and that half was pretty fucking sick - it was the first presentation of a wormhole that didn't instantly yoink me out of suspension of disbelief. Until the blue tunnel ofc, at which point, yoink.

To answer OP's question, I guess for me it's less a specific concept as it is presenting something possible only in theory in a believable way. The whole lens-distortion style transition would have been way less flashy, but less can be more.

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[–] Steve@communick.news 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Since I read Stranger in a Strange Land long ago. I keep coming back to the idea of an indoor lawn.

It's an idea that seems fairly complicated when you get into the details, but also there's no real reason it can't be done.

[–] ashenone@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

I was a building engineer for years and this sounds like an absolute nightmare, but it would definitely be super cool.

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