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"There was never a massacre in Tiananmen Square, just around it! So it's just propaganda" ~Cowbee, prominent .ml tankie (infosec.pub)
submitted 1 day ago by cm0002@infosec.pub to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

even Wikipedia acknowledges that now

Where? In a fantasy he had? Because it doesn't say what he's claiming.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I really don't understand why they're so hung up on this point. The detail of where exactly protesters were murdered really is not very important to anyone else.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

Same reason Certain Groups try and tell you "Aakkkkkshually most Jews died of disease, not gassing"

[–] Tomassci@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

I think it's trying to ease you into accepting their dogma as fact by making you doubt the official story. Nothing more.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 20 points 1 day ago

Dogma is important to the religious.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 12 points 1 day ago

Bots usually focus on their programming.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Money probably.

[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cowbee has the intellectual honesty of dessalines.

I try not to say horrible things about people like that because it isn't nice, but he really is that awful.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 12 points 1 day ago

I don't disagree. It was always a given whom Dessalines named their account after all. What the French and Americans did to the Haitians was despicable. What Dessalines did to his own people, well they assassinated him for it.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wikipedia doesn't even have the acknowledgement he claims there is. Does he really think we're all too stupid to check his claims?

[–] cm0002@infosec.pub 13 points 1 day ago

Nope, they'll just disregard any credible source as "liberal", they'll refer to Wikipedia as "liberal pedia" or some shit if you try to use it against them

[–] tanteregenbogen@piefed.eurocomsocial.de 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eventually, they will reach the level of nazis arguing the exact death toll of the Holocaust.

It doesn't matter if the murders of protestors happened in or around the Tiananmen square, it is still colloquially remembered as the "Tiananmen square massacre". I bet cowbee is making excuses on why protestors were killed such as "counterrevolutionaries" or "CIA and Mossad agents" like they claimed about Iran.

[–] Tomassci@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

When in fact it was protesters against the wave of capitalist reforms, even, who were killed. It wasn't destabilizers, it was hardliner Maoists who were killed. But anything to suit imperial China I guess.

[–] CocaineShrimp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Side note: which app are you using that lets you add tags to users?

[–] cm0002@infosec.pub 2 points 16 hours ago

Lots do, but I personally use Boost

[–] lokalhorst@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Voyager let's you do that as well.

[–] duckythescientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Not sure what they are using, but Boost has custom tags.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Didn't Zhao Ziyang go down there and plead for everyone to leave... Then spent the rest of his days under house arrest for it...

Wikipedia does say:

1 June meeting among the CCP's leadership decided to clear the square.[14][12][13] Chinese troops advanced into central parts of Beijing through the city's major highways in the early morning hours of 4 June, and engaged in bloody clashes with demonstrators attempting to block them, in which many people – demonstrators, bystanders, and soldiers – were killed or injured. The vast majority of killings were clustered in Beijing's western suburbs along Chang'an Avenue. Estimates of the death toll vary from several hundreds to the low thousands, with thousands more wounded.[15][16][17][18][19][20] On June 5, after military forces cleared the Square

...and it also appears accurate to claim that in China it's called the June Fourth Incident. This explains Western ideas that the Tiannamen Square Massacre isn't a known thing in China (possibly just because they call it something else?).

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

You used to be able to get Chinese posters kicked off the internet just for saying Tiannamen Square Massacre.

Like full heated debate through it in the response somewhere and that person was gone from the chat/forum.

It was very funny as a troll, but it really did cement the censorship claims

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Searching or referring to the june 4 incident and related protests in any way is/was censored in China. Even searching on Weibo for vague cryptic terms like "64" was blocked on the 3rd of june 2019: https://citizenlab.ca/research/censoring-a-commemoration-what-june-4-related-search-terms-are-blocked-on-weibo-today/