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[–] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I like using LibreOffice instead. Open source is always the way to go.

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Are you kidding? LibreOffice just doubled their prices

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I ALWAYS pirate libreoffice. it's not worth filling the coffers of the devs.

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Again?? Smh my head

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 14 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Someone ought to update the spreadsheet program. Excel is the primary reason companies are stuck on MS Office.

Excel isn't even that great and could be improved greatly, but unfortunately LibreOffice Calc is even worse currently.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I fucking hate that it is named calc and it’s 50/50 if it orders itself about the calculator when I search for it.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

I agree but I just type calcu and that narrows it. Or if the calculator is a common thing to run, either a keyboard shortcut or taskbar.

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Agreed, my mom uses spreadsheets for things. Eventually just ended up paying for Office Home and Student 2024 because Calc confused her. Though when I helped her install Office, I did notice that she hadn't updated LibreOffice in over two years. Wish I had noticed before she paid for Office to see if the updates for Calc might have fixed her issue. Also wish I had installed OnlyOffice to see if it might have matched the "feel" of Excel better before giving MS money.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Also wish I had installed OnlyOffice to see if it might have matched the “feel” of Excel better before giving MS money.

It's shockingly similar in a lot of ways. Just barely different enough to not get sued, I'd imagine.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

MS also has broken and depreciated a lot of Excel's functionality, yet it's still the standard. People just hate change, especially the ones that aren't actually using the product directly.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Sadly I have to agree. Being able to take my excel work home with me, where I use Linux exclusively, is the sole reason that I'm forced to use OnlyOffice vs LibreOffice. It has better compatibility with Excel by a WIDE margin.

That being said, I don't have the issue with OnlyOffice that others seem to have. It's desktop app is still OpenSource, it's just the online bits and collaboration stuff that isn't. But I'd still rather go with a non-profit like the Document Foundation than a for profit company any day of the week.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's all Visual Basic compatibility. Many companies use macros and programs written in Visual Basic inside Excel. As long as they continue using Visual Basic, they will continue using Excel.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 1 points 2 days ago

LibreOffice also has LibreOffice Basic, but Visual Basic is definitely easier to find help for online.

[–] Icedrous@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

OpenOffice is another open source alternative that looks a bit more like Microsoft Office suite, and I think it also supports more file extensions than libreoffice(?)

[–] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Libre office is the successor to Open office.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

LO is a fork of OO after there was a spat (it's been like, at least 15y now); LO is the successor, most have migrated long ago

[–] Icedrous@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Weird, I found OO was a better and more modern experience than LO.

I'm guessing they're talking about Open Office, while you're comparing to Only Office.

I'm starting to think open source may not win the "great job naming things" trophy, this year, either.

[–] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I currently have both and Libre is better. IMO.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You might be thinking of OnlyOffice...?

[–] Icedrous@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I think you’re right.

[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait, they charge extra for Teams? I honestly don't even know what plan I've got at work. It obviously has Teams, but other than that and Outlook I barely touch any of the other applications.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They didn't originally, but at least in Europe they started getting some "monopolistic" threats and started to split it up. I'm not sure if they split them for all countries/markets and am too lazy to look it up right now.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is for commercial users, so if your company mandates MS Office, none of the free alternatives are much use.
On the plus side, the prices don't really matter to those end users, so anyone outside procurement won't notice any difference.

Raising home user prices would lead to a lot more backlash, but I wouldn't put it past MS to try it anyway. They just can't seem to get out of their own way.

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not directly, but it still does matter to me. I'd rather my CEO buy a new car instead of giving even more money to Microsoft, as weird as that sounds.

The real problem is that it makes it even more appealing for C-suiters to cut costs -- and C-suiters usually choose to reduce licence counts (read: firing people) instead of migrating away from Microsoft.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

CEO still gets his new car, Microsoft still gets their check, … it’s you, sir, who gets a 2% raise instead of a 7% raise. So you’re paid less value the following year, against inflation, which is what helps make up the difference.

[–] LikeableLime@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You guys are getting raises?

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I'd rather have the CEO buy me a new car, but y'know, perspectives and all that. I'm just working my ass off for a 1b 1ba and a used Toyota Yaris, so really they deserve a new Jaguar this week.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Costs get passed to consumers.

Is this just becoming c/news?

[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's that? Microsoft encouraged people to use Open Source Office Suites? Hmm.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

nahhh, the people that would have already changed.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If open source companies cared enough about marketing, I bet the dominoes would fall.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Oh yes, they are missing on so much money...

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago
[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

What are they going to do? Buy servers!?

Board room erupts in laughter

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

And just like that, most businesses went back to pens and papers and other stationery products.

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