They said that the pictures were deleted last time, and we found out later that they weren't. Why would we trust them a second time when they violated our trust the first time?
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Bye Discord... Hi Element/Matrix haha
We replaced our site's (not-very-used) Discord server with Matrix, and even if a few thousand don't know/didn't follow, we're happier to be on a nicer space than Discord :)
I wish more FOSS communities would use Matrix, Discord sucks so I barely use it anymore
Fluxer just finally finished their big refactor that brought their code to GitHub for public contribution and they released their revamped selfhosting experience
Still. Not. Federated.
It's on the roadmap, and it's a solo dev
And Claude ofc
Wake us up when its federated and ha proper e2ee.
It’s on the roadmap
Kindof like Helix plugin system, Forgejo federation, CoMaps live traffic, etc. I'd rather use something that works right now and not have to wait like 5 years
I stopped and will immediately stop using all services that require face scans, ids, phone number or qr-captchas.
If they want to kill thwir product they can be my guest.
I stopped and will immediately stop using all services that require face scans, ids, phone number or qr-captchas.
Same.
The question tho is, how many will? If it's 50%, they killed their product. If it's 0.1%, then their product is fine, while you, me, and all us 0.1% are excluded from more and more of the online world. This won't stop with Discord.
I guess the % will be somewhere between those levels. Where exactly? IDK.
When Fluxer gets federation, I really think it will be a great drop-in for Discord. It's very familiar.
Matrix really isn't a good replacement for Discord. I wish forums were still the thing though, I hate threads in my chat apps.
I agree, but all matrix clients have their own issues too, and its not a 1:1 replacement.
I like the marketing and on the surface, Matrix looks like something I would be on baord with, BUT... staff and leadership track back to amdocs and thats a red flag for me. Independent code review, analysis, security audit and activity verification might change my mind but at this point I have no incentive to invest effort into verifying matrix is safe after my concern radar has pinged.
Matrix is just the protocol so if you think that synapse (the server implementation developed by Element which does have ties to Amdocs) is somehow logging all your data and sending it back or whatever, just use a different implementation. For example, tuwunel is sponsored and used by Switzerland’s government.
I will say that Matrix does not have a good security track record for E2EE and all of the clients use their software to do it. If that's a dealbreaker, you should probably use something security-oriented like Signal
Was just addressing the amdocs complaint. Didn’t know about the security concerns but it’s most likely still better than Discord and I’m not sure if Signal is even in consideration when looking for a Discord alternative.
Sure i read that the protocol developments go back to amdocs Governments use palantir so not a benchmark reference for avoiding spyware. Like i said, red flag and lack of motivation to act enough to verify either way. Ymmv
Their desktop client is a memory hog too. Takes ages to launch and update
Yeah, for Discord on my PC I use it through Equibop. It works quite well.
Been working on deciding where to move to, not sure if I can get my people to come with but as it stands
Fluxer - E2EE is iffy at the moment from what I've seen, federation not yet a thing
Matrix - I don't know of a client that allows audio screenshares which is important when sites keep removing the watchparty features
MOVIM is entirely text based as far as I can tell
Matrix - I don’t know of a client that allows audio screenshares which is important when sites keep removing the watchparty features
If you use Element web with a chrome-based browser you can share a tab playing a video from the same browser. I use Helium to connect to matrix and my Jellyfin server to stream movies regularly. Within the last few months they've added the ability to adjust stream volume as well.
I assume E2EE is end to end encryption?
Curious why you care that much. On discord it's all on their servers anyways, so it already doesn't matter.
If you had to you could self host and set up e2ee for the connection if you wanted to.
MOVIM is entirely text based as far as I can tell
What are you talking about? One of its main features is multi-stream video calls, which most other XMPP clients don't handle
My community is in the process to migrate to fluxxer, self-hosted.
As much as i hate this, CSAM sharing accounts are a real problem, and they keep making more and more.
I wonder what else could be used to counter this ? Device IMEI auth? Im sure we can come up with better than ID verification, which will ultimately make me leave the platform, not because i have something to hide, but because the precedent it sets is dangerous and WILL lead to leaks and breaches.
Offer a paid option to purchase a card at a store that to be activated needs you to show your ID to a clerk just like purchasing alcohol. Nothing is stored. You take the card home and input the activated code into you account.
That's... actually a good idea