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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Centrists? In most of the world they’d be considered strongly right-leaning.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 1 points 2 days ago

"right", "left", and "center" are arbitrary points. They aren't defined by Democrats, Republicans, or International politics. That's why I prefer terms like "conservative", "leftist", "reactionary", "fascist", etc. Those are actual ideologies without arbitrary boundaries. Otherwise, you're bound by the Overton window, which is always changing. The "centrist" Democrats are mostly conservative, unlike Republicans, who are mostly fascist.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s actually true in the US too by those not deluded, stupid, faithful or combination of all three. Problem is those people constitute 80-95% of the population because our education is purposefully shit tier

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

no they dont. most people are not centrists, and certainly not 80%. if that were true the establishment dem policy of pandering to them would result in overwhelming victory in every election. what we see in reality is them losing when they do that.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 days ago

That’s not at all what I said, I said that most people in the US think the DNC is on the left, even though they objectively ain’t, I didn’t say anything about what most people considered themselves

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Good.

Maybe they can start to understand why.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 8 points 4 days ago

We got an optimist over here

[–] yessikg@fedia.io 7 points 4 days ago

Make sure they continue freaking out by voting for more progressive democrats

[–] A_be_seedy@beehaw.org 5 points 3 days ago

Luckily, they will all vote blue no matter who, I'm sure. They'll suck it up, ane fall in line and vote blue no matter who. Just like they did with Mandami. Remember when it took until after voting began for Hakeem Jeffries, DNC leader, to endorse Mandami over serial sex offender, sore loser, centrist Cuomo?

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't know anyone rich enough to be a "centrist" Democrat. Incremental change could have worked thirty years ago, but at this point, the system is too fucked for that.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah, they could have managed things the slow and steady way to improve people's lives while they were stealing from them, but they were too goddamned greedy.

To some extent philosophical arguments about what's right, what's fair, and what's feasible are just academic. There's just a limit to how much the lords can squeeze the peasants before a revolt happens, and we're getting close. Our situation is pretty close to as bad as it's ever been and papering over it with meaningless programs that barely help anyone aren't enough to relax that pressure. One way or another it's is going to be let out.

We no longer have any illusions about the robber barons just being benign people who were smart or lucky and prospered in a functioning system. A few of them know they need to give back and give back quickly, but most are just thinking about how much more they could take and people see that.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 days ago

Git rid of all the Nazi collaborator "centrists"